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Re: Toyota RAV4 6 cylinder vs. Subaru Outback 3.6R [ateixeira] by ateixeira
Oct 29, 2009 (11:11 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 27, 2009 7:59 am)

Sorry for the wrong link in my previous post, here is the one I meant to share:
 
http://www.automotive-business-review.com/news/display.aspx?alias=toyota_goodyea- r_sued_over_runflat_tires&
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Re: Roof Rack [cdndriver] by tee_el_cee
Oct 29, 2009 (11:29 am)
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Replying to: cdndriver (Oct 29, 2009 10:43 am)

As someone who rarely uses a rack, I initially thought it was really clever. Only when I started reading the gripes and, coincidentally, started shopping for a cargo box for my WRX wagon, did I realize all the shortcomings.
 
I doubt it's "their way of discouraging people from buying after market racks". I'm not even sure it's cheaper than previous racks or other options. I think someone just thought it was really cool and didn't check it with real rack users.
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Re: Roof Rack [tee_el_cee] by cdndriver
Oct 29, 2009 (1:21 pm)
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Replying to: tee_el_cee (Oct 29, 2009 11:29 am)

I use the rack on my Legacy wagon with an aftermarket rail system. The idea has merit, but like you say, they probably didn't check with real rack users. which seems to be what they've done with alot of the design changes.
 
I will check out the Forester. that may be where I end up if I stick with Subaru. I don't think I'll go with the OB. I'll keep writing them and tell them to bring the Legacy wagon back.
Going to another maker has its own set of problems: getting to know those cars, what their pros and cons are...and I don't have that long.
My wife loves the Saab style, but I don't even know how long they'll be around, not to mention the service costs.
 
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Factory roof rack replaced with tracks. by tee_el_cee
Oct 29, 2009 (4:40 pm)
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Looks pretty good.
 
http://rackattackportland.wordpress.com/2009/07/02/new-series-cars-of-the-future- -a-rack-installers-opinion-part-1-2010-subaru-outback/
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RE: on 607 post link by tdiver
Oct 30, 2009 (6:39 am)
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Now that's the way Subaru should have done the roof rails in the first place. Great looking and I would think well work much better for those that use them.
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rack FAIL by bkaiser1
Oct 30, 2009 (7:52 am)
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I'd consider myself a pretty regular user of the roof racks on all of my cars over the years -- my garage looks like a Yakima warehouse sometimes. Anyways, carrying bikes, tandem kayaks, cargo boxes, etc. has always been priority with my car purchases, and from the looks of it, the 2010 Outback rack is just pathetic. Not only is there WAY too much plastic up there, the [non-adjustable] crossbar spread of less than 2 feet is just silly for carrying anything bigger than a couple of bikes.
 
 My 2001 Outback and 2004 WRX wagon both had simple, elegant side rails with easily removed crossbars that your could configure any way needed to handle the load. The best part was how easily you simply unbolted the bars with all the accessories in place and stored it, leaving a clean, uncluttered roof. That's just not possible with the 2010 Outback design, and it just looks SO bulky and plasticy too boot.
 
The aftermarket solution (link above) certainly looks like it SHOULD have come from the factory, but at an additional $1000 it's a pretty steep modification. I'm a huge fan of Subarus, but this latest design is a big FAIL in my opinion.
 
Brian
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Re: Factory roof rack replaced with tracks. [tee_el_cee] by xwesx
Oct 30, 2009 (10:31 am)
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Replying to: tee_el_cee (Oct 29, 2009 4:40 pm)

Thanks for the link! That was a great read.
 
I fully agree with you Brian. That new rack was change for the sake of change rather than improvement.
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Re: rack FAIL [bkaiser1] by ateixeira
Nov 03, 2009 (1:13 pm)
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Replying to: bkaiser1 (Oct 30, 2009 7:52 am)

Hey Brian.
 
I thought the spread was actually 30"?
 
October sales are out - Outback outsold the Forester for the first time in years. Both are way up, though.
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Re: rack FAIL [ateixeira] by rschleicher
Nov 03, 2009 (6:06 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 03, 2009 1:13 pm)

I think the front-to-back spacing between the stock cross-bars when they are in the cross-position is 30".
 
But, for people who want to mount their own crossbars (and leave the stock rack in its "stowed" position), the exposed length of the stowed bars is only about 21" or so. (This is if you were wanting to mount your own cross bars to the stowed bars, using them as the rails.)
 
If you look at the design of the stock 2010 rails, they could have positioned the rails such that they were farther apart than 30" in the crossed position. I don't know why the designers thought that a 30" spacing was optimal.
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Re: rack FAIL [rschleicher] by xwesx
Nov 03, 2009 (6:26 pm)
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Replying to: rschleicher (Nov 03, 2009 6:06 pm)

I suspect it is because, when stowed, the 30" spacing allows the "rails" to appear symmetrical. If they had wider spacing when deployed, one bar would be located further toward the back of one rail while the other would be located further forward. Now, we wouldn't want the rails looking awkward, would we?

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