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Toyota RAV4 6 cylinder vs. Subaru Outback 3.6R by priggly
Oct 23, 2009 (7:23 pm)
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Anyone shopped the new Outback 3.6R against the six cylinder Toyota RAV4?
 
How does the RAV4's AWD system compare to that of the Outback?
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Re: Confused Over Quality Ratings [cdndriver] by ateixeira
Oct 27, 2009 (7:56 am)
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Replying to: cdndriver (Oct 23, 2009 3:38 pm)

True Delta is a new site that measures reliability on an ongoing basis with members who belong to sites like this. He remains in touch with members quarterly and sends reminders and constantly collects and updates the data. Using that strategy produces results much sooner than CR's or JDP's surveys, which are annual and rely on lots of snail mail and long surveys.
 
I can't wait for the new scoring system to go public - I think it will be very well received when it does.
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Re: Toyota RAV4 6 cylinder vs. Subaru Outback 3.6R [priggly] by ateixeira
Oct 27, 2009 (7:59 am)
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Replying to: priggly (Oct 23, 2009 7:23 pm)

I don't think that's an area of strength for Toyota. Here's one article:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yp1PkXizeQ
 
I own a Sienna and it was the run-flat tires that made me shy away from AWD, but it's not thought of as a particularly strong system.
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Roof Rack by tdiver
Oct 29, 2009 (9:50 am)
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I like the looks of the new Outback but what's up with that roof rack? It looks like a cheap piece of crap. Why could'nt they have designed it more like the one on my 04 FXT? I don't use or need a roof rack so the first thing I did was pull the crossbars off and no harm no foul on the looks of the vehicle. I see that in the Japan models you don't have to get them. I know there are those that use them (Kayak's etc..) but I would really like to know the percentage of people that really use them. I think they should be maybe a no cost option or a no cost delete. Am I alone out here with this? What do you'll think?
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Re: Roof Rack [tdiver] by cdndriver
Oct 29, 2009 (10:43 am)
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Replying to: tdiver (Oct 29, 2009 9:50 am)

The roof rack opens to a fairly narrow cross bar, close together, I mean. Though some people say it shows holding a kayak, actual users sound more skeptical.
I wonder how much stability there would be to a bike rack with a couple of bikes up there.
The idea is clever to have one that folds away, and I'm sure it's their way of discouraging people from buying after market racks, which is what I bet most people do. But it's a clumsy large bulky fixture up there, not sleek like the past ones have been.
I don't know if they hired new engineers there or what, but it just seems to me like they've cheapened so many things on this car. I'm disappointed, and checking out other makers more closely for my lease renewal in two months.
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Re: Roof Rack [cdndriver] by saedave
Oct 29, 2009 (11:00 am)
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Replying to: cdndriver (Oct 29, 2009 10:43 am)

I'm disappointed, and checking out other makers more closely for my lease renewal in two months.
 
Be sure to also inspect the Forester: Sleeker roof rails, same passenger space, shorter to park and folding side mirrors. Only chintzy items seem to be mouse fur headliner and thin carpet. The 4-speed versus CVT auto trans is a personal call; I drove the CVT Outback and the 4-speed Forester and preferred the Forester. The prices are not very different unless you would choose a stripper version of the Forester which could be a transportation bargain.
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Re: Toyota RAV4 6 cylinder vs. Subaru Outback 3.6R [ateixeira] by ateixeira
Oct 29, 2009 (11:11 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 27, 2009 7:59 am)

Sorry for the wrong link in my previous post, here is the one I meant to share:
 
http://www.automotive-business-review.com/news/display.aspx?alias=toyota_goodyea- r_sued_over_runflat_tires&
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Re: Roof Rack [cdndriver] by tee_el_cee
Oct 29, 2009 (11:29 am)
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Replying to: cdndriver (Oct 29, 2009 10:43 am)

As someone who rarely uses a rack, I initially thought it was really clever. Only when I started reading the gripes and, coincidentally, started shopping for a cargo box for my WRX wagon, did I realize all the shortcomings.
 
I doubt it's "their way of discouraging people from buying after market racks". I'm not even sure it's cheaper than previous racks or other options. I think someone just thought it was really cool and didn't check it with real rack users.
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Re: Roof Rack [tee_el_cee] by cdndriver
Oct 29, 2009 (1:21 pm)
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Replying to: tee_el_cee (Oct 29, 2009 11:29 am)

I use the rack on my Legacy wagon with an aftermarket rail system. The idea has merit, but like you say, they probably didn't check with real rack users. which seems to be what they've done with alot of the design changes.
 
I will check out the Forester. that may be where I end up if I stick with Subaru. I don't think I'll go with the OB. I'll keep writing them and tell them to bring the Legacy wagon back.
Going to another maker has its own set of problems: getting to know those cars, what their pros and cons are...and I don't have that long.
My wife loves the Saab style, but I don't even know how long they'll be around, not to mention the service costs.
 
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Factory roof rack replaced with tracks. by tee_el_cee
Oct 29, 2009 (4:40 pm)
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Looks pretty good.
 
http://rackattackportland.wordpress.com/2009/07/02/new-series-cars-of-the-future- -a-rack-installers-opinion-part-1-2010-subaru-outback/

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