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To answer that seemingly simple question, I started here: http://cars101.com/ then went here http://www.cars101.com/outback.html then here http://www.cars101.com/subaru/outback/outback2009photos.html then here http://www.cars101.com/subaru/outback/outback2009.html and found it: everything the 2.5i SE has, plus... new Dark privacy tinted glass (2.5i and SE have standard tint) new Power Passenger seat, 4 way new Passenger seat lumbar support new 2.5i Limited alloy wheels now the same 'turbo design' that has been on the 08 XT and 3.0R LL Bean models new Audio controls on steering wheel (also has cruise controls) Automatic Sportshift 4spd transmission (no manual available) Leather interior, 3 spoke leather wrapped steering wheel, parking brake, shift knob Woodgrain shift knob Woodgrain patterned interior trim Windshield dark shade band across top of windshield Climate control, dual zone front, 6speed fan, auto and manual functions Body colored door handles Body colored outside mirrors Rear seat center fold down armrest 17" 'turbo design' alloy wheels that have been on the XTs Steering wheel, leather wrapped, with Audio Control and Cruise Controls Dual pane power glass sunroof with auto open/close (deletes sunglass holder) Stereo: AM/FM/ 6 disc CD changer. Plays MP3, R/RW discs. Auxilliary input in center console. Pre-wired for XM or Sirius satellite radio. Panasonic. new Harman Kardon audio system, 440-watt, 9-speaker, 8 channel amp/equalizer, subwoofer under front passenger seat, subtle speed sensitive volume control. Optional Navigation System (model code 9DH), Kenwood 7" touch screen, GPS Disc updates only available from store.kenwoodusa.com It's a similar number of steps for the 2010, and then I'd have to compare. So more than double that much work. Ask here and someone will say "pretty much the same except the moonroof is a la carte". You'll get an answer in seconds.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 20, 2009 10:22 am) I guess - only if someone happens to be on-line at the same time you are asking/posting your question. Maybe it's just the way my mind works. I would still want to do the research myself to confirm any information I am given. Probably my suspicious NY nature. 
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Replying to: rkrat (Oct 20, 2009 11:06 am) First you do some general research on the models you like, and create a short list. Once you have a short list, though, there's nothing like asking an expert on that particular brand/car for advice. They're the ones that can help you identify which model may be the best value, or one that may fit yours needs best. They can also tell you what to look out for. For instance, I know plenty about Subarus, but I was new to Toyota when I went minivan shopping. The pros warned me about the run-flat tires, especially the cost of replacement after their short lifespan. You couldn't read that on any specs list. So even if I thought I knew what model I wanted, I'd still ask in the Sienna threads for expert opinions. Any how, cars101 is extremely useful and should not be ignored.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 20, 2009 11:47 am) Yeah, I know, it would serve me right if you told me to go look it up on the internet.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 20, 2009 11:47 am) Run-flat tire From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search A run-flat tire is a pneumatic vehicle tire that is designed to resist the effects of deflation when punctured, and to enable the vehicle to continue to be driven at reduced speeds (up to 90 km/h or 55 mph),[1] and for limited distances of up to 100 miles (160.9 km),[2][1] or even 200 miles (321.8 km) depending on the type of tire.[3] First patented in 1892,[2] run-flat tires were re-developed in 1978 and offered as an option in the 1990s mainly for two-seat sports cars with little room for spare tires and jacks. They have grown in popularity for other vehicles, such as high-end luxury cars,[1] because of their safety and convenience,[4] costing double the price of sports tires.[1][3] |
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Replying to: rkrat (Oct 20, 2009 12:17 pm)  Basically it's a tire with a reinforced sidewall, that can run without any air pressure, usually at limited speed and distance. But donuts also limit speed and distance. The idea is you could limp home and make it. Advantages? You don't need to pull over in that narrow shoulder and change a tire and risk your life. It also eliminates the need for an on-board spare tire, leaving more room for cargo space. You save on the cost and weight of the actual spare tire, as well. Disadvantages? They tend to ride harshly. That same rigid sidewall can mean a hard ride. They tend to weigh more, and it's unsprung weight, too, where you want it least. They cost more, a lot more, and they tend not to last as long. Finally, only certain shops are equipped to change them, and may not even carry them at all, if you slash a sidewall and need one exchanged - you could be stranded in the middle of nowhere. On the Sienna, they're $800 a set and last 20k miles, if that. I can replace my tires at half that cost and they last twice as long, cutting my tire budget by 75%. Honda offers them on the Ody and it's the same problem - plus they come in 17.5" rim sizes so that really limits replacement tire selection. I think they're a good idea, but I certainly hope Subaru waits until they iron out the kinks, and get costs down, before they start offering them. |
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Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 20, 2009 12:27 pm) I would pull over and let my husband change the tire. If he's not with me, that's what USAA road-side assistance is for. If I can afford it, I always pay a professional.
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Replying to: rkrat (Oct 20, 2009 1:40 pm) On top-of-the-line models only, I believe. Bob
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Replying to: eps105 (Oct 18, 2009 6:15 pm) The saleswoman looked it up on the factory brochure and some other special dealer info package they had and all she could find was that it was voice activated with blue-tooth and I-pod control, but oddly it didn't mention the back up camera capability as it did on the Tribeca brochure. I'm probably going to go for NAV but it will be a special order. There are none available in the mid Atlantic. The cars101.com site did mention that nav had backup camera. http://www.subaru.com/content/downloads/pdf/brochures/2010_outback.pdf |
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Replying to: rkrat (Oct 19, 2009 1:56 pm) "We have a 2010 OB with the 2I.5 engine and CVT . We recently towed our pop-up camping trailer (GVW 2,600 lb) about 600 miles round-trip over some winding coastal mountain roads. Electric trailer brakes certainly provide a measure of confidence. The rig climbed well. I suspect that Subaru, like every other company, tries to manage their liability by posting conservative limits on something covered by their warranty." I love the Edmunds Subaru forums - home of lots of helpful folks & information. However information freaks such as myself often check multiple forums. In addition to Edmunds subaruoutback.org is very helpful, especially lots of good discussions on the 2010 Outback |
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