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Replying to: surrfurtom (Oct 17, 2009 8:12 pm) Of course it does! It's one of the main reasons I got the nav, and it's worth every penny. A simple look in the Outback sales brochure would have answered that question. Shame on your dealer for not being able to answer a simple, well-documented content question. |
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Replying to: priggly (Oct 15, 2009 10:30 pm) Please search for some of my recent posts in this thread, I already answered many of these questions and gave some more insight. The system comes with 3 DVD's. Each DVD has every street in the US and Canada, but the points of interests are divided by region. So if you're driving from PA to CA, you can do it with any disc, but to find a gas station or restaurant along the way, you'll need to insert that region's DVD. There is no text to speech for regular street names, but it does announce highway numbers. This doesn't bother me as much as I thought since the name of the street to turn on is displayed in large text right at the top of the screen along with a zoomed-in inlaid map of the intersection, including what appears to be a simple lane guidance. All in 2-D though. Don't know how up to date the database is, but version 2.2 is the latest available from Subaru, IIRC. A new interchange near my house that was just completed a little less than a year ago is not shown. Spending the extra $2k (+$1k for the moonroof if you didn't want it) is a matter of opportunity cost to each person. For me, it was worth it because I'm getting the backup camera, integrated Bluetooth with visual display, USB, and voice activation all working in integrated harmony. For example, the POI's in the nav have an option to call the listed phone number using the Bluetooth phone. And music mutes when you get a new call, are reversing, and when nav directions are given. I actually like it better than I thought I would but you can get a great Garmin for $150, so the choice is up to each buyer. |
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Replying to: eps105 (Oct 18, 2009 6:15 pm)  : Does the backup camera give a good view of the corners? How is the visability at night with the standard backup lights? I have never used the bluetooth & am interested in how that works I assume one just turns on their cell phone & pushes the bluetooth icon on the Nav system. Then what do you do when your phone rings? IF the radio is on, does it automatically mute? How do you end a call? I have read some posts that suggest that some of the Nav system functions don't work if the car is in motion. What is that all about? Many thanks! 
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Anyone gotten the Side cargo nets and all weather floor mats from Subaru? Are they worth the cost? Thanks
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Replying to: 204meca (Oct 18, 2009 6:34 pm) It has a very wide-angle lens that allows you to see about 30 degrees to the sides, but since the lens is recessed next to your license plate, it cannot pick up the very corners of the bumper. That is what your side mirrors are for and a good reminder that the rear camera supplements, not replaces, your other mirrors. That said, the backup camera is super-awesome and my #1 favorite tech feature on the car. It also shows colored lines that perfectly gauges the path and distance of your car from objects behind you. It's awesome for backing up in tight lots. You can tell down to the inch when you're about the bump into the car behind you. How is the visability at night with the standard backup lights? Yes, it gains up nicely enough to still be able to see what's behind you. I have never used the bluetooth & am interested in how that works I assume one just turns on their cell phone & pushes the bluetooth icon on the Nav system. Then what do you do when your phone rings? IF the radio is on, does it automatically mute? How do you end a call? Wow, that's a lot of info you're asking for. I'm can't go into all the details here; you're going to have to educate yourself on the basics of Bluetooth, including making sure you have a Bluetooth-capable phone. As far as the integration with the nav, you can pair up to 5 BT phones with the nav system and tell it which phones you want it to AutoConnect to every time you turn on the car (only one phone can be connected at a time). Once set up, it's quite seamless -- you don't even have to take the phone out of your pocket. Even the caller ID shows on the nav screen, and if the number is programmed into the nav's address book, the name will show too. When your phone rings, you answer it from the steering wheel controls, the nav screen, or your phone. Same to end a call. And yes, all audio mutes while you're on a call. My only niggle is that audio MUTES, not pauses, so if you're listening to a CD or MP3, it keeps playing at 0 volume, which stinks if you're listening to an audio book, you'll need to rewind after the call or pause manually before you answer the call. I have read some posts that suggest that some of the Nav system functions don't work if the car is in motion. What is that all about? Yes, this is common with most integrated navs. You can't manually program many POI's or browse your phone's address book, or jump to different albums from MP3. You also can't play DVD Video while in motion. But you can still dial using the SpeedDial list, program POI's using voice commands, on-screen QuickPOI's, and your favorite 5; and you can jump to previous/next albums in order. In fact, I've found workarounds to just about everything that most of the lockouts don't bother me. Hope this helps.
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Replying to: 204meca (Oct 18, 2009 6:50 pm) I have all of those and they're worth every penny (and they are actually very reasonably priced as well). Rubber mats are great to keep the car clean -- just wash and hose off with the rest of the car. They blend in perfectly with the dark grey carpeting. Side nets in the Outback are a little quirky in that 1/2 of their length is pulled snugly along the wheel well, so while you can fit something like a gallon of milk in the net in front of the wheel well, you can only fit thinner items in the back 1/2 of the net. I also have the rear net, very useful for shopping bags. I had the rear-seat net in my previous Forester, but found it too far of a stretch to use frequently, and they got in the way when I folded down the seats, so I left that disassembled most of the time. Therefore, I didn't order that on my new Outback.
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Thanks for all the very detailed info that you're sharing here, especially regarding the NAVI. It's much appreciated. While still expensive the new NAVI, now that it comes with Bluetooth and a rear camera, is a much better deal than before. I'd be curious as to how it compares with a Garmin. I think you may have mentioned that before, but maybe not in too much detail? Obviously any portable NAVI units will be significantly cheaper, and the maps may be more up to date, as with the POIs. Can you elaborate a bit more on the portable vs. in-dash Subie NAVI units? It's easy for those of us who have not "lived" with an in-dash unit, to scoff at it, but I believe you also have a portable GPS unit. So your hands-on experience with both would be very helpful. Thanks. ...And good luck with your new Outback 3.6.  Bob |
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Replying to: rsholland (Oct 19, 2009 7:08 am) Oh, and the only luck I need is to not get a speeding ticket. 
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Replying to: eps105 (Oct 19, 2009 7:12 am) Bob |
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