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#514 of 706 Stinky the Skunk by ateixeira Oct 13, 2009 (11:21 am)
I went to a Subaru dealer yesterday and picked up a small sample size of Outback Detergent, plus a sock puppet of Stinky the Skunk.   Very, very funny marketing campaign.   My wife even got a stain remover pen. Cracked us both up. Replies to this message: kcram (Oct 13, 2009 2:46 pm)
#515 of 706 navigation conversation with a little bit of satellite by vehiculus Oct 13, 2009 (12:12 pm)
anyone have much experience with the navigation on the 2010 outback? can it get traffic updates? does it work via satellite, or does it work off a dvd?   and how about satellite radio - i see you can get an xm or a sirius kit. but aren't they the same now? as far as subaru, is there a preferred kit?   and what's the harness? i'm thinking about getting the interior lighting package, but it seems you also have to get some sort of harness.   anyone?   thanks.   ps. is $400 over invoice a good price? anyone having better luck in this economy?
#516 of 706 Re: Stinky the Skunk [ateixeira] by kcram HOST Oct 13, 2009 (2:46 pm)
Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 13, 2009 11:21 am) Stinky the Skunk...   I guess it was too expensive to call Time Warner and license Pepe LePew...   kcram - Pickups/Wagons Host
#517 of 706 Re: more pics [ateixeira] by nes2 Oct 13, 2009 (6:30 pm)
Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 21, 2009 11:42 am) I agree with most of your comments except the part about the roof racks. If you are a outdoors enthusiast and are used to putting a couple of kayaks or a long canoe then the factory rack sucks. Yes, it looks cute but its flawed in that you cant move the cross bars and the bar spread is minimal and so longer cargo(even a ladder) would not be well supported. The 2009 side rails were long and could easily support an off market rack such as a Thule but with the 2010 you would have to use the factory bars which wouldn't help - you still have lousy bar spread. very disappointing. Replies to this message: rsholland (Oct 14, 2009 4:18 am) ateixeira (Oct 14, 2009 7:24 am)
#518 of 706 Re: more pics [nes2] by rsholland Oct 14, 2009 (4:18 am)
Replying to: nes2 (Oct 13, 2009 6:30 pm) Page 19 of this Outback brochure PDF shows the 2010 Outback carrying a kayak on the roof. So it can be done.   http://www.subaru.com/content/downloads/pdf/brochures/2010_outback.pdf   Bob
#519 of 706 Request for parents by kirstie_h HOST Oct 14, 2009 (5:27 am)
If you are a parent and drive a new Legacy, please email predmunds.com to be interviewed.
#520 of 706 Re: more pics [nes2] by ateixeira Oct 14, 2009 (7:24 am)
Replying to: nes2 (Oct 13, 2009 6:30 pm) Can't you tie down the ends to a hitch and the front bumper? I imagine there are ways to compensate for that.
#521 of 706 Re: 2010 Outback Navigation System [vehiculus] by eps105 Oct 14, 2009 (12:44 pm)
Replying to: vehiculus (Oct 12, 2009 2:27 pm) Vehiculus, Despite many functions being locked out while driving and an arguably mediocre user interface (including lack of 3D view and text-to-speed found on even $100 Garmins), I am finding the system to work pretty well and be pretty robust even while the car is in motion.   For example, you can still access your Bluetooth phone speed-dial list while driving or even use the voice command to dictate a phone number. You can use the voice command to find the nearest POI's while driving, and you can initiate guidance while driving to your list of 5 favorite destinations. You can also change albums from the USB/iPod sequentially (previous/next) while driving (but you can only view the full list and jump to a specific album while stopped.)   So while many functions are locked out while driving, I find I can still do most everything I need to do while in motion within limits.   I did not purchase Siruis or XM, but I am 99% sure that there in no support for traffic in the Outback.   Sirius and XM are merged to one company, but they are still separate offerings and programming.   I think you have your tech jargon confused. "Satellite based navigation" simply means it uses GPS signals from the GPS satellite located all around Earth. All GPS systems are "satellite based". That's how they work. The software that uses those signals and displays your location on a map is always locally based. There's no such thing as the GPS signals updating your software. The GPS nav in the Outback has the maps and points of interests on DVD, which plays in a 2nd hidden DVD player behind the bezel of the nav system. The only way to get map/POI updates is to buy them from Subaru through Kenwood at about $250 a pop. If the nav software itself is updated, that can be flashed into the nav system's memory, but I'm not sure if that is free.   Hope this helps.   Elliot Replies to this message: ateixeira (Oct 15, 2009 8:33 am) priggly (Oct 15, 2009 10:30 pm) ateixeira (Oct 16, 2009 7:22 am) eps105 (Oct 18, 2009 6:29 pm) vehiculus (Oct 16, 2009 11:05 am) surrfurtom (Oct 17, 2009 8:12 pm) eps105 (Oct 18, 2009 6:15 pm) 204meca (Oct 18, 2009 6:34 pm) and 2 more... surrfurtom (Oct 20, 2009 5:06 pm)
#522 of 706 Outback wins MT's SUV-of-the-Year award by rsholland Oct 15, 2009 (4:21 am)
http://www.motortrend.com/oftheyear/suv/112_0912_2010_suv_of_the_year_winner/ind- - ex.html   Kudos to Subaru, but did you see the the list of vehicles in this group? How can you compare a 4-Runner (a BOF traditional SUV aimed at off-road customers) with an Outback (raised unit-body station wagon aimed at going to the shopping-mall customers), or a Venza, etc.?   Forget comparing apples-to-apples, or even apples-to oranges; no, you're comparing apples-to-hamburgers here. The current SUV-of-the-Year and Truck-of-the-Year awards are a joke, because there's no way you can objectively cross-compare the vehicles involved. Now the MT editors said they were grading these vehicles by certain objective standards, and that they weren't cross-comparing these cars—but customers will!   Bob Replies to this message: priggly (Oct 15, 2009 11:00 am) ateixeira (Oct 15, 2009 11:20 am) rkrat (Oct 19, 2009 12:37 pm) and 7 more...
#523 of 706 Re: 2010 Outback Navigation System [eps105] by ateixeira Oct 15, 2009 (8:33 am)
Replying to: eps105 (Oct 14, 2009 12:44 pm) Elliott: thanks for the detailed feedback.   No 3D is ok with me, I think that's gimmicky anyway. You sort of lose space on the screen, as things get smaller as they get farther away. I use 2D mode, the direction I'm traveling facing up.   No text-to-speech? Yet it takes voice commands? What an odd combination.   For the Tribeca the pair of updated DVDs costs $230, but you can split it if you find someone on the other coast to share the cost. That would cut the price to $115 plus the shipping (twice).   How's the 8" screen? That's a nice size. Garmins go up to 5" or so now.

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