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Subaru Legacy, Subaru Outback, Subaru Forester, Car Buying, Car Comparisons, Sedan, Wagon
#189 of 1296 Re: To get a manual wagon w/moonroof under $30k Subaru wins out [seabrook7039]
Jul 17, 2009 (8:40 am)
But the redesigned Outback cabin is the clincher, both with the larger front and back seats areas. And the greater width and length of the cargo area, though slightly smaller for 2010, still exceeds the Forester by a significant amount
I believe the passenger space is almost identical.
There is one other difference in favor of the Outback (presuming it is as quiet and jolt free as my 2005): The Forester has much more jolting from a bad road surface. I rode as a passenger in the new Forester two days ago and noted that it was not nearly as good a ride as my Outback 3.0R. Also the Forester low front passenger seat is a disappointment. For the small price difference, if you like the styling, the Outback wins.
Jul 17, 2009 (9:11 am)
I thought that being in NJ, I could only get the PZEV 2.5i Outback. But I just checked some local dealers' websites (2010's are finally trickling in here) and I'm seeing V6's with the 5spd auto as well.
How does PZEV affect model availability anyway?
If there's a PZEV version of the car, I can't get non-PZEV versions?
And if so, does version mean "Outback" or "Outback 2.5i"?
But I can buy other models with no PZEV version? So what is Subaru trying to do -- make sure a target % of cars sold in PZEV states are PZEV?
#191 of 1296 Re: PZEV questions [tee_el_cee]
Jul 17, 2009 (9:44 am)
PZEV models are only the 4cyl ones, V-6 and Turbos are not PZEV models.
#192 of 1296 Re: RPM @ 70 mph: '09 4-Spd. Auto v. '10 CVT? [cptplt]
Jul 17, 2009 (11:12 am)
that reassures me that I won't be listening to too much thrashing under the hood at cruising speed, LOL.
#193 of 1296 Re: PZEV questions [tinycadon]
Jul 17, 2009 (1:51 pm)
Not to be too picky but Subaru makes an H6 not a V6
#194 of 1296 Re: RPM @ 70 mph: '09 4-Spd. Auto v. '10 CVT? [cptplt]
Jul 17, 2009 (3:52 pm)
FYI, RPMs at 74 MPH in my '03 Forester 2.5 AT are 3K.
#195 of 1296 Front seat fold down?
Jul 18, 2009 (1:51 am)
Does anyone know if the Outback or Forester have a front passenger seat that folds down ( to make room for really long cargo) ?
#196 of 1296 Test Drove 2010 Legacy
Jul 18, 2009 (5:05 pm)
I test drove a new 2010 Legacy sedan recently. Overall I have mixed feelings. The increased interior space is certainly nice, but I don't like the new trunk design at all - That is due to the rear window almost ending at the rear bumper. The only way to put items in the truck is sideways, and then you can barely see what you're putting in the back. The interior gauges were nice, but the seat material seemed kind of hard and not very comfortable. Driving included some straight back roads and highway travel. Backroads the suspension seemed to provide about the right amount of firmness without being punishing. Accelerating onto the curving highway on-ramp, the front wheels seemed to understeer more than the previous Legacy. On the highway there was a more noticable vibration from the drivetrain felt through the steering wheel than the previous Legacy. Although the wind noise was essentially eliminated by the new windor frames, there seemed to be a noticable amount of drive train noise in the interior on the highway. Bottom line is that I doubt I'll go back and buy one of the first of the new production run, but will wait and see if Subaru makes any refinements. However, based on the minimal changes to the 2010 Forester, they may be slow in coming. I may take a closer look at the Outback, since it has more room than the Forester and gets better mileage due to the new CVT tranny. Subie really needs to update the 4-speed automatic in the new Forrester, or else it may start losing sales to the new Outback.
#197 of 1296 Re: Test Drove 2010 Legacy [dan_o]
Jul 20, 2009 (10:26 am)
I test drove the 2010 2.5iOutback Limited this weekend and was very dissappointed. The exterior redesign was very pleasing. Like the top rails and their functionality. Car seems to be much bigger than the 09. Only complaint is it looks like a Volvo! As for the interior, the color combinations that Subaru offers are horrible. Why someone cannot purchase a black exterior and black interior combination is ridiculous. Anyway, the seating was comfortable, shoulder and head room very adequate for 6' person. Back seating was very comfortable. Now onto the driving: acceleration from the start was lackluster, handling rough pavement was jarring and my passenger complained about being jostled around. All in all, the only reason I am looking into the 2010 over the 2009 is due to the Bluetooth capability. After driving this vehicle, I decided that this new version was not worth my hard earned money. Drive it for yourself especially those who own a 3.0 or 2.5 GT and I am sure you will be dissappointed. The car coupled with horrendous lease numbers made this car a definite "NO LEASE" vehicle.
#198 of 1296 Re: RPM @ 70 mph: '09 4-Spd. Auto v. '10 CVT? [fendertweed]
Jul 21, 2009 (4:28 pm)
My 07 XT Outback with 5 spd auto turns 2600 at 75. The 2010 Outback 2.5i w/CVT turns 2100 at 75. Definitely quieter and using less gas.