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Replying to: dbt (Jul 06, 2009 6:01 am) Tell me, how does one steer with the right hand while driving a stick? In the US, and not in a JDM vehicle?
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Replying to: ecotrklvr (Jul 07, 2009 10:45 am) Granted, if you keep your hand there "all the time," you likely wouldn't forget what gear you're in; but that's not how I drive. Bob
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Replying to: rsholland (Jul 07, 2009 11:12 am) If the 6-speed could actually get the same mileage, and could be had for $800-1000 less, I'd take it. The big no-no is driving with left foot resting on the clutch pedal. Nothing good comes of that. |
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Replying to: 204meca (Jul 03, 2009 11:55 am)
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Replying to: gmginsfo (Jul 09, 2009 10:46 am) Bob |
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....That about sums it up for me.... First, they styling is down right horrible and the body design has no continuity. This goes for both sedan and the Outback. The materials used in the previous generation Legacy/Outback were much much better. The whole interior is hard plastic in this latest rendition. I find the center of the dash obtrusive and hideous. I drove a 2.5i with the automatic transmission and power delivery was virtually identical to the previous generation. It had 16" alloys on it that make it look like it was riding on doughnuts. ugh... One thing that confuses me is the size of the Outback. It's larger in mass then a Forester, yet, sits lower on the ground and it costs more. It almost seems as if Subaru is canabolizing it's own sales..... I have had so many people come to my Subaru store and express their displeasure with it. This is not a good sign....
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jul 09, 2009 2:00 pm) The ground clearance of the Outback and the Forester are the same. Bob
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I test drove a 2010 Outback and came back impressed. I like the design of both the interior and exterior, but the interior without the fake wood is a bit too industrial for my tastes. While not the best example of the species, the fake wood warms things up a bit. There is a marked improvement in the comfort of the leather seats over the cloth ones, I too noticed the hard plastic dash, but since I generally try to restrain myself from caressing the dash it isn't too important to me. Of more importance are the surfaces I actually touch when I'm using (not cleaning) the vehicle. What I really enjoyed was the engine/CVT combo. There seemed to be plenty of power on tap and at highway cruising speeds the engine dropped below 2000 rpm. The programming of the CVT seems very well sorted out. Road noise was significant, but not objectionable. Ride quality was good. My only complaint with the engine was noticeable vibration at idle. There is none in the bigger Toyota Venza 4. The ride, interior and exterior are much better than the Venza however. I'm still trying to figure out which planet the Venza came from. The way too big 20 inch wheels on the Venza also contribute to a truck like ride. All in all the Outback is the front runner in the early stages of my search for a new 4 wheel drive road vehicle. The Forester would be of consideration too if they got rid of that damn 4 speed auto and replaced it with the CVT. Depending on dealer discounts and/or rebates (admittedly unlikely on a brand new model) I may be driving an Outback soon.
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Replying to: nwbear (Jul 09, 2009 9:23 pm) I expect that to happen in a couple of years, if not sooner. Bob |
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Replying to: rsholland (Jul 07, 2009 10:36 am) see http://www.jatco.co.jp/ENGLISH/PRODUCTS/cvt.html I've also read that the chain driven CVTs tend to have a longer life than the old belt driven ones, but may be more expensive to repair/replace. I've also seen anecdotal evidence that the Audi CVT TCU issues may have been on their early ones. It's a frustrating crapshoot ... CVT from a long established mfr tho' new to the Subie v. a new 6-speed (reminds me of my old Saab days when they strengthened the pinion bearing (a weak point) in their 5-speed in the '89 900s, and yet our '89 turned out to be the only one of several high mileage Saabs we owned that needed a tranny rebuild!). I am going to have to make a choice very soon, my '01 Audi wagon is dying and I'll be trading it in the next 2-3 weeks probably, either for a leftover '09 OB Ltd., or maybe a '10 OB Premium (but then there are those tranny choices/gremlins, lol). 
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