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#1159 of 1296 Radar emissions inside 2010 Legacy GT by nmdriver

Jul 30, 2010 (3:31 pm)

2010 Legacy GT Premium with Nav. No satellite.
     When the weather is cool this particular car bathes the interior with RF radiation in the X and Ka band radar frequencies. The emissions are coming from just to the left of the speaker grill on the top of the dash. It is like driving in a microwave oven. The problem happens when the dash is cool, so it is a permanent condition in cooler months. Goes away when the dash gets warm in warmer weather.
        All I asked was that Subaru help me track down the source of the problem so that we could replace whatever is causing the problem. But, over the past seven months, Subaru America’s reaction has alternated between unbelievable hostility and completely ignoring me. They have even yelled at me on the phone for using “non Subaru-approved devices” (4 different Valentine radar detectors, 2 Escorts and one lab device) to measure the radiation. I have never been treated so shabbily by ANY manufacturer. After 17 years of owning Subies I am disappointed, disgusted, discouraged and angry.
       I could not possibly sell this car in its current condition. I am left to try to track down the source of the problem on my own.
       This is our 5th Subie, and the 12th in our family. Based on the treatment from Subaru of America, it will be the last.
       Has anyone else encountered anything like this?

#1160 of 1296 Re: Radar emissions inside 2010 Legacy GT [nmdriver] by bigfrank3

Jul 31, 2010 (11:50 am)

Replying to: nmdriver (Jul 30, 2010 3:31 pm)
Strange problem. I have used my V1 in my 10 Forester and "detected" nothing abnormal.

#1161 of 1296 Re: Radar emissions inside 2010 Legacy GT [bigfrank3] by hratmsu

Jul 31, 2010 (4:09 pm)

Replying to: bigfrank3 (Jul 31, 2010 11:50 am)
SOA must think this guy is crazy.

#1162 of 1296 Here we go again.... by wired1

Aug 01, 2010 (10:26 am)

Dear Subaru Crew;
After 8 years and 160,000 miles I am looking to replace the 2002 LL Bean Outback that I so thoroughly researched with the help of the crew here years ago.
 
My goals are the same as before with modifications:
Magic and Scout (appearing in 2 issues of DRIVE Magazine) are now 13 and 10 respectively and looking forward to a new ride. They have a few questions:
 
1. The new Outback appears higher. Anyone have advice on which Pet Step works best? These two are 90 pounders, with a bit less steam in their stride.
 
2. Which model and trim level best approaches the LL Bean? Still interested in the six cylinder engine. Looks like the power moon roof is now an option....
 
3. What's this about steering wheel vibration? Widespread or rare?
 
Looking to ride again!

#1163 of 1296 Re: Here we go again.... [wired1] by saedave

Aug 01, 2010 (11:16 am)

Replying to: wired1 (Aug 01, 2010 10:26 am)
2. Which model and trim level best approaches the LL Bean? Still interested in the six cylinder engine. Looks like the power moon roof is now an option
 
Why not consider the Forester XT Limited (2010) which has better performance thann your 3.0 six and equivalent interior finish. It has almost 4 inches more rear seat room than your Bean. Another choice if you want a chain driven cam like the six is the 2011 normally aspirated Forester which has a new engine design. I would expect the new engine to be more civilized with less noise, vibration and harshness....like the Bean's six.
 
If the dogs need the luggage room of the Outback, you'll need to buy the 2011 3.6R limited to get the feel and sound level of the Bean. I found the 4 cylinder with CVT vastly inferior to my 2005 3.0R VDC (similar to your Bean, but with stability control):
Hence my purchase of a Forester XT Limited. Also the 2010 Outback ...even the 3.6R..did not have folding mirrors which were essential.

#1164 of 1296 Re: Here we go again.... [saedave] by wired1

Aug 01, 2010 (5:51 pm)

Replying to: saedave (Aug 01, 2010 11:16 am)
Thanks Dave,
 
Food for thought, such as yours, is always welcomed.
 
NO folding mirrors in 2010? What was THAT all about?
 
Tom

#1165 of 1296 Re: Here we go again.... [wired1] by saedave

Aug 02, 2010 (5:53 am)

Replying to: wired1 (Aug 01, 2010 5:51 pm)
NO folding mirrors in 2010? What was THAT all about
 
Cost reduction, but in the wrong place. The 2010 six cylinder list price was actually less than the equivalent 2005 by three thousand dollars. But I wouldn't even consider buying one without folding mirrors with local narrow streets. The signal mirrors like on the 2005 may now also be available on a top line 2011. I believe other 2011 Outbacks have regular folding mirrors.
 
The extra width of the new Outback might be a consideration if you drive on very narrow busy streets. The Forester is considerably narrower on the outside and only one quarter inch narrower on the inside.

#1166 of 1296 Re: Love our new Outback, but..... [redrose1] by ateixeira

Aug 02, 2010 (1:51 pm)

Replying to: redrose1 (Jul 30, 2010 5:20 am)
Could be a rusty part given the car sat around for a while, if they're changing it I wouldn't complain.
 
You can check the production date on the door jamb, then compare to when you bought it. It probably sat around for .... well, not long given the demand for Outbacks!

#1167 of 1296 Strange Metallic Sounding Noises by lasubeguy

Aug 03, 2010 (8:16 am)

Last night I started my car and pulled out into a busy street and suddenly, out of nowhwere this god-awful sound started up....unlike any sound I've ever heard come from a Subaru (this is my 5th one) or any other car, for that matter. It was a kind of metal-on-metal rubbing sound and seemed to be coming from the movement of the wheels but I could not be sure. So I pulled over, put the car in neutral, and revved the engine, and the noise abated. Then, I put the car in drive, and sure enough, that awful metal-on-metal rubbing sound started up again. I stopped again. This time I put the car in neutral, then in reverse, backed up a few meet, put it back into drive and the sound stopped. It was loud and awful sounding; the kind of sound that if it had continued I would not have kept driving the car. I heard a metal clank just before it began, almost as if something made of metal had fallen off the car. I looked under the car, saw nothing in the street, and there was nothing hanging or dragging from the chassis. I am clueless to what this could be. I drove home--about 5 miles--through some twisty turning streets, up hills and down hills, and the sound did not recur. Anybody out there in forumland have a clue what this could be?

#1168 of 1296 Re: Strange Metallic Sounding Noises [lasubeguy] by eps105

Aug 03, 2010 (8:31 am)

Replying to: lasubeguy (Aug 03, 2010 8:16 am)
Sounds like one of your brake pads binded up and was dragging. Driving in reverse re-seats the brake pads and may have reset it back in position. If this is the case, you should have the dealer clean and lubricate your brake mechanicals. Just a guess.

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