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#1152 of 1296 Re: steering vibration information appreciated [xwesx]
Jul 27, 2010 (2:01 pm)
The newest iteration of the Outback (and Forester) reduced road feel dramatically (and, in my opinion, disappointingly), but it is not, thankfully, completely gone (as you would find in a typical GM or Toyota).
But they are safer for the average driver than older models. I could confidently change lanes with my 1997 Legacy GT with only a touch to the wheel, but my partner wig wagged down the road when he was driving. The self centering and lighter touch on my new Forester XT are both better than on my previous Outback 3.0R.
I have noticed a lot of lazy drivers recently who don't turn the wheel far enough and fast enough for the attempted manuever. Subaru recent steering changes may particularly help such drivers.
#1153 of 1296 Re: steering vibration information appreciated [saedave]
Jul 27, 2010 (2:11 pm)
Sadly, that assessment is likely correct. I have grown accustomed to it on my '10 Forester, but I sure don't enjoy it. Interestingly, even my Forester has more road feel than my '69 Chevrolet C20 pickup, so that trend is not a "new car" phenomenon!
I thoroughly enjoyed the steering on my '96, '07, and '08 Outbacks - I thought they were nicely, if not perfectly, balanced.
#1154 of 1296 Re: steering vibration information appreciated [xwesx]
Jul 27, 2010 (3:16 pm)
... even my Forester has more road feel than my '69 Chevrolet C20 pickup, so that trend is not a "new car" phenomenon!
That brings back memories of driving my Dad's '68 Ford F100 with manual steering and three on the tree on the hilly/windy Saw Mill / Merritt Parkway through NY & CT.
The steering box had tons of play and the shifter not only had a long throw (way longer than Chevy), but it also tended to jam going into 2nd. Now that was a workout.
Oh, but that 360 V8 w/ Holley 4 barrel just purred.
#1155 of 1296 Re: 2010 Subaru Outback Radio/Stereo Issues [nicolepare]
Jul 27, 2010 (9:48 pm)
I have a 2009 Forrester. My radio works but reception is not good in Asheville area. It worked well in Milwaukee, WI. I believe that radio or antena are weak compared to others because 1) my wife's 2010 VW Jetta has perfect reception of all the stations that I am interested in and 2) our realitor had satellite radio on her Outback in order to listen to radio.
Anyone had this experience? Is it the radio or antenna?
I am going to try to increase length of the antenna to see if that helps.
#1156 of 1296 Re: steering vibration information appreciated [dcm61]
Jul 28, 2010 (10:45 am)
My '69 Ford Econoline's steering box also has a lot of play, though I have been told how to tighten it up (and have yet to do so!). That thing is an automatic (C4), but it is also one heck of a workout to drive... especially at low speeds! With no power-boosted brakes and no power steering, it is a whole different animal than your everyday road vehicle. I sure love that ugly old beast!
I have only driven a couple of vehicles with "three-on-the-tree" shifters (a '47 Chevrolet sedan and a '66 Galaxie). They were... interesting... to drive, but I did not think the shifting experience was nearly as engaging as a floor-mounted shifter.
And, on that note, I sure would like to see a real, definitive fix for that steering vibration problem on the 10 Outbacks!
#1157 of 1296 Re: steering vibration information appreciated [xwesx]
Jul 28, 2010 (10:52 am)
My '69 Ford Econoline's steering box also has a lot of play, though I have been told how to tighten it up (and have yet to do so!).
I wonder if that is the same Ross steering gear box that I had on my 1965 Mustang.? I tighted mine up after about four years of use, but the result was lumpy steering with still a little too much play. That was the same infamous gearbox used on the Falcon. My partner still shakes the steering wheel from side to side from too many years driving a Falcon.
#1158 of 1296 Love our new Outback, but.....
Jul 30, 2010 (5:20 am)
We just got a brand new 2011 Outback 3.6.
We love the car but are having a couple of issues. First, when we release the brake pedal there is a clunking noise. The dealer says they need to change a part - already?! The car is 2 weeks old! I hope it solves our problem.
Also, when we drive with the sun roof open, the noise is deafening. Would anyone know if a deflecter would help stop this noise? Any other suggestions?
Thanks so much!
#1159 of 1296 Radar emissions inside 2010 Legacy GT
Jul 30, 2010 (3:31 pm)
2010 Legacy GT Premium with Nav. No satellite.
When the weather is cool this particular car bathes the interior with RF radiation in the X and Ka band radar frequencies. The emissions are coming from just to the left of the speaker grill on the top of the dash. It is like driving in a microwave oven. The problem happens when the dash is cool, so it is a permanent condition in cooler months. Goes away when the dash gets warm in warmer weather.
All I asked was that Subaru help me track down the source of the problem so that we could replace whatever is causing the problem. But, over the past seven months, Subaru America’s reaction has alternated between unbelievable hostility and completely ignoring me. They have even yelled at me on the phone for using “non Subaru-approved devices” (4 different Valentine radar detectors, 2 Escorts and one lab device) to measure the radiation. I have never been treated so shabbily by ANY manufacturer. After 17 years of owning Subies I am disappointed, disgusted, discouraged and angry.
I could not possibly sell this car in its current condition. I am left to try to track down the source of the problem on my own.
This is our 5th Subie, and the 12th in our family. Based on the treatment from Subaru of America, it will be the last.
Has anyone else encountered anything like this?
#1160 of 1296 Re: Radar emissions inside 2010 Legacy GT [nmdriver]
Jul 31, 2010 (11:50 am)
Strange problem. I have used my V1 in my 10 Forester and "detected" nothing abnormal.
#1161 of 1296 Re: Radar emissions inside 2010 Legacy GT [bigfrank3]
Jul 31, 2010 (4:09 pm)
SOA must think this guy is crazy.