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Re: No Longer Premium Gas Recommended? [fedlawman] by nj2pa2nc
Aug 07, 2009 (3:42 am)
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Replying to: fedlawman (Aug 06, 2009 8:53 pm)

89,000+problem free miles, more than enough power, excellant gas mileage on my 06 tsx, using regular gas. My brother's volvo cost a lot more than my tsx and he also uses regular gas. My mom's accord cost $30,000-does that mean she should use premium gas. What does the car price have to do with the gas.
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Re: No Longer Premium Gas Recommended? [nj2pa2nc] by cdnpinhead
Aug 07, 2009 (4:52 am)
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Replying to: nj2pa2nc (Aug 07, 2009 3:42 am)

What does the car price have to do with the gas?
 
If you're driving a 16-year-old rusted-out hulk, then saving twenty cents a gallon is, if nothing else, consistent with your lifestyle.
 
Driving a $30K vehicle that recommends (some require, but the TSX isn't one) spending that $100/year extra implies that you can afford it, so why not? In many cases the computer takes care of the effects of running 87 octane in an engine designed for 91, but the effect is often lower fuel mileage from retarding the ignition. Result -- no savings & possible net loss.
 
When I go to higher elevations here "out west" (5K ft or more), I'll run regular all day long -- they sell a lot of 85 octane gasoline is Colorado. The only engines that need premium at high elevations are turbocharged.
 
To each their own, I guess.
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Re: No Longer Premium Gas Recommended? [cdnpinhead] by nj2pa2nc
Aug 07, 2009 (5:06 am)
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Replying to: cdnpinhead (Aug 07, 2009 4:52 am)

While on our cross country road trips (including Colorado) the premium gas in some states was cheaper than the regular gas. We still bought regular. We also noted that the gas stations that had 85 octane, the highest octane was 90. We can afford paying for premium but personally when we did use it- no improvement in gas mileage, power or performance. Use what works for you. We also have all the service done by the acura dealer since we can afford that, also.
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Re: No Longer Premium Gas Recommended? [nj2pa2nc] by fedlawman
Aug 07, 2009 (8:31 am)
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Replying to: nj2pa2nc (Aug 07, 2009 3:42 am)

"What does the car price have to do with the gas."
 
Nothing. It's the manufacturer's recommendation that should guide you.
 
My Volvo V70 does not require premium gas, so I use regular. My BMW M3 requires premium gas, so I use it exclusively.
 
By the way, just because you can't detect detonation, doesn't mean your TSX isn't experiencing detonation at certain times. Knocking can be very dramatic and obvious (especially in old cars), but it is often undetectable. Just because you can't hear/feel it doesn't mean it's not occurring. You may never climb hills or drive under part-throttle. Someone else may lug the engine frequently and cause undetected detonation. You may never have a problem with your TSX, but the person who buys it second hand 3, 5, or 8 years from now may be looking at a premature engine rebuild. There's just no way to know.
 
The way I figure it, the engineers that designed the car probably know more than I do about the best way to operate and maintain my car. To my mind, using regular gas in a car designed for premium is no different than trimming the costs in other areas...
 
Stretch your oil change intervals from the recommended 7,500 to 10,000 miles. Drive 5,000 miles past the wear bars on your tires. Shake the dirt out of your air filter when it's time to replace it. Change your fuel filter at 40,000 instead of 30,000 miles. Add a mere 10,000 miles to your transmission fluid service interval, etc.
 
You'll save hundreds of dollars each year and most likely never notice a difference in the performance/reliability of your car.
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Re: No Longer Premium Gas Recommended? [fedlawman] by nj2pa2nc
Aug 07, 2009 (2:51 pm)
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Replying to: fedlawman (Aug 07, 2009 8:31 am)

At the rate I am going my car will have over 100,000 miles when it turns 3 years old in Nov. I previously owned a 1991 Mazda Mx-6 GT and a 1998 Eagle Talon TSI-AWD. When we sold them the mazda had 250,000+ miles and the talon had 125,000+ miles. They both had their original turbo, engine, transmssion, clutch and ran excellent using regular gas (like with the tsx, premium gas was recommended not required.) My tsx has a oil life maintance minder which I follow. I also get my tires balance when they are rotated. The original OEM michelins lasted 74,000 miles. They were measured as a 4 so they still had tire life left. I still had the original brakes, rotors, battery and will be getting the brake and manual transmission fluids changed in Nov (3 years as recommended by the owners manual). The owners manual also states not to use octane below 87 which I follow.
One more thing-the new owners of the mazda has over 300,000 miles on it-still running excellent-just needed to be repainted and new seat covers. We made sure it had proper maintenance-oil changes, etc.
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Re: No Longer Premium Gas Recommended? [nj2pa2nc] by fedlawman
Aug 07, 2009 (3:00 pm)
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Replying to: nj2pa2nc (Aug 07, 2009 2:51 pm)

I don't know the specs, but I'm sure the TSX engine has a significantly higher compression ratio than those older turbo cars.
 
At least you follow good maintenance practices. It does beg the question though - why are you so fastidious about oil, fluids, tires, etc. but blasé about gasoline?
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Re: No Longer Premium Gas Recommended? [fedlawman] by nj2pa2nc
Aug 08, 2009 (3:07 am)
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Replying to: fedlawman (Aug 07, 2009 3:00 pm)

as stated previously we did try using premium gas-saw no noticeable change- Numerous car magazines and consumers reports also say unless you tow/drive on mountainess roads or drive a race car-regular gas can be used without problems. Besides our regular acura dealer we have taken it to 4 other acura/honda dealers for oil changes/tire rotations. (cross country roadtrips). They have all complimented us on how well our car is maintained. My husband tells everyone I take better care of the car than him-which is TRUE.) I know how to check the oil level, tire pressure, fill up the windshield cleaning fluid and change a flat tire. I do not race it-
My brother's volvo is the S-80 which recommends premium gas-he uses regular. He used premium for almost a year-switched to regular and has not switched back.
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Re: No Longer Premium Gas Recommended? [nj2pa2nc] by fedlawman
Aug 08, 2009 (7:29 am)
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Replying to: nj2pa2nc (Aug 08, 2009 3:07 am)

Sorry, I was just curious.
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Re: TSX/RDX/Volvo/TL [nyccarguy] by 1bythesea
Aug 25, 2009 (8:19 pm)
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Replying to: nyccarguy (Aug 03, 2009 7:00 pm)

O.K. for what it's worth...
 
I just traded in my 2007 RDX for a 2010 I4 TSX. Just before the trade, I had an opportunity to drive a loaner 2009 TL base w/ SH-AWD overnight. Honestly, I was not impressed with the TL's engine. Once it was spooled up, the RDX had quicker pick-up and passing ability. While I haven't tested the TSX V6, I'd have to agree the RDX turbo would have been a better choice.
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Re: TSX/RDX/Volvo/TL [1bythesea] by nyccarguy
Aug 26, 2009 (7:20 pm)
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Replying to: 1bythesea (Aug 25, 2009 8:19 pm)

We're going with the 2010 TSX Tech I4 Black/Black. I think we're picking it up on Saturday.

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