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Re: 2010 TSX V6 Pricing [smarty666] by fedlawman
Aug 02, 2009 (12:11 pm)
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Replying to: smarty666 (Aug 02, 2009 8:27 am)

"for just about the same price maybe a few hundred dollars more you can be a in a base TL with the nav system for around $39k and your getting more car for your money."
 
What makes the TL more car for the money? It's physically larger, but that's about it. Same Accord platform, same engine/transmission, same suspension, same features, etc.
 
"I mean for over $10k less you can be in a 09 TL SH-AWD with tech than a top of the line RL and with the TL your getting a bigger car and bigger engine; there is no point to the RL the way Acura has it and then they sit there a wonder why the RL doesn't sell well."
 
The TL and TSX are brand-new designs while the current RL is a legacy vehicle (introduced 5 years ago). The new RL will be in a whole different league from the TL and TSX when it appears next year.
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Re: 2010 TSX V6 Pricing [fedlawman] by smarty666
Aug 02, 2009 (4:56 pm)
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Replying to: fedlawman (Aug 02, 2009 12:11 pm)

the TL was always based on the accord platform but the 09TL is far different than the 08TL so I don't understand how you can say its still the same TL; I have a 2008 TL and the suspension, engine, and sheetmetal and exterior design is radically different in the 09 TL then the 08 TL because I test drove the new TL to see what they changed and it was astonishing how drastically everything changed with this car in just one year
 
being the TL is physically larger inside and outside you get more car for almost the same amount of money; you can not make a logical explanation that by getting the TSX V6 loaded your getting more car for your money because your not; the TSX is smaller in almost every dimension and volume; the rear seat in the TSX is completely useless for passengers and trust me I've tried when I've had one as a loaner car from my Acura dealer; if you compare the TL and TSX V6 side by side on the Acura website you'll see a couple areas where the TL has advantages over the TSX; I was only stating that for Acura to price the the TSX V6 so high that you'll be better off getting a TSX V4 then a loaded V6 to get more money's worth and better gas mileage which is more bang for our buck! and that if you want the V6 get the TL; if the prices of the TSX V6 tech and Base TL tech are almost the same why not get more room and comfort by getting the TL; it just makes financial sense unless Acura tries to pull some BS with the financing rate or leasing rate on the TSX V6 that make it more attractive to get than the TL financially then you might be right but that is all a wait and see what Acura does game
 
in regards to the RL, it was refreshened for 2009 and they could have made adjustments but the RL has never sold well and I'm sorry the new TL SH-AWD loaded is far superior to the RL in price, size, engine, etc;there is no logical reason to get a RL right now if only to say I'm driving a Acura RL; I've read these kind of reviews by MotorTrend, Car and Driver, and Consumer reports so my thoughts are backed up by professional reviewers; the only way Acura is going to bring the RL back from obscurity is to completely redesign it and dump a RWD or AWD V8 engine into for 2011; unless Acura is willing to do this in order to compete with the top of the line sedans with V8's from Infiniti, Lexus, BMW, Audi, and Mercedes it will never sell well
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Tire Pressure Monitoring System by thumper1221
Aug 02, 2009 (5:16 pm)
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I noticed on the Acura website that the TSX displays the PSI for each tire. I always seem to have trouble keeping my tires properly inflated...so I find this feature invaluable. Do all Acruas have the this feature? Do any competitors offer this feature?
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Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring System [thumper1221] by smarty666
Aug 02, 2009 (5:19 pm)
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Replying to: thumper1221 (Aug 02, 2009 5:16 pm)

My 2008 TL has this feature and I love it; it really comes in handy when the seasons/temperatures change because it changes the PSI in my tires and this display tells me which ones need air; I think Nissan has this feature as well; I had a 2008 altima one time as a rental car and it had it on it; I don't know what other manufactures have it though
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Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring System [smarty666] by cdnpinhead
Aug 02, 2009 (5:38 pm)
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Replying to: smarty666 (Aug 02, 2009 5:19 pm)

They all have it now it now because of the legal system in the U.S. Well, that and the fact that American drivers can't be troubled to look after their vehicles -- owning & using a tire gauge is part of driving a vehicle, just like checking the oil. Yeah, I know, nobody does either any more. . .and here we are.
 
The Ford Explorer (Exploder) fiasco a few years ago revealed that Americans can't be bothered to check their tire pressures & will sue (or their heirs will) when it's revealed that low tire pressure was a contributing factor to the rollover.
 
Ain't America great? Tort reform? We don't need no stinkin' tort reform.
 
We apparently don't need people who look after their vehicles either.
 
Oh boy.
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smarty666 & fedlawman by nyccarguy
Aug 02, 2009 (6:06 pm)
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smarty:
 
I was at the Acura Dealer yesterday & checked out the TL & TSX as my wife test drove the I-4 TSX (that poor salesman ). I don't know about dimensions, but the TL definitely seemed to have more room. Now as far as trunk space goes, I'd have to give the nod to the TSX. The TL might have more cargo volume, but the TSX has a very large, usable trunk. They are too close in price, but I'm sure Acura figured out somehow that TSX buyers are not cross shopping the TL (either way, if they are, Acura wins)
 
But using your argument (retorically speaking), why go for a 4cyl TSX when you can get a loaded EXL-V6 NAV Accord for the same (or less money)? Like I said above, people aren't cross shopping the TSX & the Accord.
 
fedlawman: You guys have a Volvo right? Which one, what do you think of it (obviously it isn't your E30 M3), & would you buy another one?
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Re: 2010 TSX V6 Pricing [smarty666] by fedlawman
Aug 02, 2009 (6:51 pm)
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Replying to: smarty666 (Aug 02, 2009 4:56 pm)

"the 09TL is far different than the 08TL so I don't understand how you can say its still the same TL."
 
I never did say that.
 
"if the prices of the TSX V6 tech and Base TL tech are almost the same why not get more room and comfort by getting the TL."
 
Because some people prefer a more compact package.
 
"in regards to the RL, it was refreshened for 2009..."
 
It got some cosmetic tweaks, but it's still the same 5 year-old car. The new RL coming out next year (reported to have Honda's first production V8) should compare very well with it's intended rivals.
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Re: smarty666 & fedlawman [nyccarguy] by fedlawman
Aug 02, 2009 (7:06 pm)
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Replying to: nyccarguy (Aug 02, 2009 6:06 pm)

Well put NYC. The reason some people prefer the TSX to the TL is the same reason why some choose the TSX over the Accord. Size. The TSX is a more compact car that is arguably sportier (at least in 4 cyl trim) and more fun to drive. For young urban up and comers, why choose a larger sedan when you can have a right-sized one?
 
Yes, I think we have the perfect mix of cars for our family. The M3 to play with on the weekends, and the Volvo V70 wagon for the family during the week. Our Volvo has the rear-facing 3rd row seat, so we can haul 4 adults and 3 kids (!!!) to the movies if we need to. We love our Volvo (it's been a fantastic, comfortable & luxurious touring car and has been utterly reliable), but with almost 100K miles, I've have been checking out new cars. So far, nothing out there is a worthy replacement. I like the new V70, but I don't think it's as good a car as the previous generation (it's more refined, but the new 3.2L V6 can't touch my 30+ MPG hwy economy), and since Volvo stopped offering the 3rd row (only the V90 has it), it's not an option for us.
 
Of all the new cars I've looked at with 3 rows of seating, the Acura MDX would be my choice if I had to buy a new "wagon" today. It's very nice. If I didn't need three rows, then I'd strongly consider the Hyundai Genesis. It's the nicest $30,000 car on the market.
 
But as it stands, $250 for a timing belt change and $300 for front & rear brake rotors, and our 2004 should be good for many miles to come. It's a great car and I see no reason to part with it.
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Re: smarty666 & fedlawman [fedlawman] by nyccarguy
Aug 02, 2009 (7:20 pm)
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Replying to: fedlawman (Aug 02, 2009 7:06 pm)

Thanks for your reply. I'm obviously pushing for the TSX, but in the end, she's going to be the one driving it & will have to live with the car for the next 8 years or so (I'd push for 10 ).
 
After driving the X3 for the past 2 years, she feels like she's sitting too low in the TSX (that's what I like about it), so she's going to drive it again.
 
She likes the Volvo because it has true wagon cargo space behind the seats (as opposed to the 3 series & A4 wagons with their raked rears that rob cargo space. The Volvo V70 is a nicely styled wagon. I have a feeling that most dealers here will only have XC70s in stock (AWD+heaftier price tag+even worse gas mileage = not for us).
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Re: smarty666 & fedlawman [nyccarguy] by fedlawman
Aug 03, 2009 (5:49 am)
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Replying to: nyccarguy (Aug 02, 2009 7:20 pm)

Well, the V70 doesn't sit any higher than the TSX. Except for the great cargo room in the rear, it feels like any other mid-size sedan (with the best seats in the business).

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