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Re: Options? [1bythesea] by bvdj84
Sep 03, 2009 (6:14 am)
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Replying to: 1bythesea (Sep 02, 2009 4:04 pm)

The TSX is the car I truly want. It seems to me, you can get a better lease on the TSX than the Accord. One of these days I will drive an hour to test drive a TSX. But, I would sign a lease before even driving one. I have a 08 GM car, and I want out!
I am so lost on what to do.
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Re: Options? [bvdj84] by 1bythesea
Sep 04, 2009 (8:10 pm)
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Replying to: bvdj84 (Sep 03, 2009 6:14 am)

Why do you want out of the '08 GM? Is it leased? Is the GM in high demand? As a general rule of thumb on cars...buy if depreciation is low (TSX), lease if depreciation is high (e.g. most KIAs). Do you know the depreciation rate on your GM vehicle? (intellichoice.com or internetautoguide.com are good sites to check.) Whether leasing or buying you don't want to be up side down with a trade in. But you already knew that. How would you come out selling it yourself? Do you have a Carmax near you? They tend to buy higher than dealers trade in. I sold a Highlander for $3 K more than a dealer would give on trade in. Just some food for thought; hope it helps. It can be torture stuck in a ride you're unhappy with.
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Re: Options? [1bythesea] by fedlawman
Sep 05, 2009 (6:39 am)
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Replying to: 1bythesea (Sep 04, 2009 8:10 pm)

"buy if depreciation is low (TSX), lease if depreciation is high (e.g. most KIAs)."
 
I somewhat disagree.
 
When you lease a car, you are paying the predicted depreciation (the purchase price minus the residual). A car with higher depreciation (lower residual) will cost more to lease than a car with lower depreciation.
 
For example, take 2 cars that both cost 25,000 to purchase (after negotiation). After 36 months, the 1st car has a residual value of 15,000 (60%) and the 2nd car has a residual value of $11,000 (45%).
 
The lease payments on the 1st car could be $100/mo less.
 
This is very generalized, of course, to illustrate a point. Tax, incentives, cap cost, money factor, etc. all play a part in determining your monthly lease payment. And unless the manufacturer has aggressive lease incentives, it is almost always better - from a financial standpoint - to purchase rather than lease a new car.
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Re: Options? [fedlawman] by 1bythesea
Sep 05, 2009 (3:53 pm)
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Replying to: fedlawman (Sep 05, 2009 6:39 am)

We're on the same page. Something to keep in mind though, residual values tend to be artificially inflated when leasing to keep monthly payments lower. So you may not be stung as hard financially leasing versus buying a higher depreciating vehicle.
 
Yes, I agree it is generally better to buy than lease.
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leasing vs. buying by nyccarguy
Sep 05, 2009 (5:50 pm)
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it is advantageous to buy a car with a high residual value like the TSX. Someone posted last week they paid $20K for an '06! That's a 3 year old car (technically 4 because the '10s are out).
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It's only been a week by nyccarguy
Sep 05, 2009 (6:01 pm)
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But so far I'm impressed. Since last Saturday, we've put a 470 something miles on our 2010 TSX. The trip computer still says we have 30 miles to go. The car rides solid & comfortable without being soft & wallowy. The dash & interior materials are well laid out & beautiful. I can't yet comment on the acceleration because I'm still breaking the car in and don't want to let it loose yet. The NAV is spectacular. I love the XM radio. The bluetooth in the car is simple to set up & sounds fantastic.
 
I have found a few nits to pick. These are minor & perception is everything. The doors are light and don't have the same thunk as the German cars do. The door handles inside the car feel really light. The lock/unlock button for the doors is in a strange place. Almost hidden. I prefer BMW's center mounted lock/unlock button. As I said above, the bluetooth works great, but does NOT upload your phone book into the car. Again, these are nits & I understand that the TSX costs a lot less than a comporably equipped BMW.
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Re: It's only been a week [nyccarguy] by 1bythesea
Sep 07, 2009 (2:51 pm)
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Replying to: nyccarguy (Sep 05, 2009 6:01 pm)

Happy to hear you are enjoying the new car!
 
I just turned over the 1 K mark on my car, so I know how you feel about the break-in period. Although Acura says 600 miles, it never hurts to be gentle the first 1,000.
 
In regards to acceleration. I found the TSX has nice take off, but lacks mid grunt when accelerating hard. But I knew this going in from the '09 TSX loaner. For the most part it is not a problem for me. There seems to be plenty of power when you really need it such as in hyw. passing. Actually, I was impressed a 4-banger had that much get up and go. A friend mentioned the engine doesn't sound stressed, as in many 4 cyl. engines when you press them. And who can complain about the mpgs?
 
Nit picks...you're correct everyone has different preferences. Personally, I thought the BMW door lock location was odd. I have a couple of picky things on the TSX also; such as on the XM (base) you always have to hit the title button as it automatically resets to station title once the car is turned off. The RDX (base) radio left it where ever you set it. Why doesn't the heater go all the way up the back on the passenger side like other cars? But the good stuff by far out weighs these little picks. Every vehicle I ever owned there was always something I could nit pick. So to each his own...
 
I thought I read in the manual with the tech pkg. your phone was supposed to upload. Hmmm...
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Re: It's only been a week [1bythesea] by nyccarguy
Sep 07, 2009 (5:02 pm)
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Replying to: 1bythesea (Sep 07, 2009 2:51 pm)

Gas mileage is super-impressive. This is on a green car without a broken in engine. We got 475 miles on our first tank of gas. I calculated we averaged over 26.5 mpg.
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Re: It's only been a week [nyccarguy] by 1bythesea
Sep 08, 2009 (3:48 pm)
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Replying to: nyccarguy (Sep 07, 2009 5:02 pm)

It may have been on another Acura site that people were saying the mpg reading is 2-3 miles higher than actual. Today I began doing the mileage by hand so we'll see. What ever...it's still much better than the RDX and I'm a happy camper!
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My Experience. . . by cdnpinhead
Sep 08, 2009 (4:12 pm)
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certainly has been that the MPG computer on my '08 TSX is consistently 2-5 mpg higher than actual. My last six fills yield the following: computer 29.5, actual 26.8; comp 29.1, act 26.9; 28.4/26.5; 38.2/33.3; 35.1/33.7; 37.6/32.5. The big numbers are from a road trip to Colorado, the first three are around town.
 
Everything else on the car is bang on, from the outside temperature indicator to the speedometer to the odometer to the tire air pressures. I don't think it's a coincidence that the mpg computer is the only thing that's off, given that very few people go to the trouble of actually calculating their fuel mileage.
 
I'll be interested in hearing what your hand calculations show.

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