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Re: Kia Rondo Gas Tank overflowing [kierstenhm]
by ramblinmo
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Feb 11, 2009 (6:08 pm)
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Replying to: kierstenhm (Feb 09, 2009 7:10 pm)
If there were any thing wrong, it would have to be a hole or a separation of the fill tube. I would think it would be obvious as gas would be pouring out below the car if this was the situation.
This was interesting.
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/230/how-does-a-gas-pump-know-to-shut-it- - self-off
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Re: Kia Rondo Gas Tank overflowing [ramblinmo]
by kierstenhm
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Feb 11, 2009 (8:10 pm)
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Replying to: ramblinmo (Feb 11, 2009 6:08 pm)
It is definitely not a hole or separation of the fill tube. There is no gas leaking out under the car. It is all coming out the hole where the gas nozzle goes in. I thought it was probably just poor tank design and that somehow the orientation or shape of the gas tank in these cars did not allow the automatic release on the pump to trigger at the right time. I can't imagine other people with this model are having the same problem, though, since I can find no other complaints. This is a significant enough problem that there would be other people complaining if it was a common occurance in other 2007 Rondos. I'm wondering if somehow my gas tank was installed wrong. Is this something the mechanic at the dealership would be able to determine if I took my car in?
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Re: Kia Rondo Gas Tank overflowing [kierstenhm]
by conwelpic
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Feb 13, 2009 (3:13 pm)
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Replying to: kierstenhm (Feb 11, 2009 8:10 pm)
certainly a problem as I've never encountered such a thing on my Rondo. My first thought would be to take it to the dealer and get them to fill it up so they can observe it in operation.
came across this article that may help clarify how the pump works:
"How does a gasoline pump at a filling station know when the tank is full?." 01 April 2000. HowStuffWorks.com.
This mechanism has been around for a long time, so it is safe to say there is not a miniature camera inside the nozzle hooked to a microprocessor. It's purely mechanical -- and ingenious.
Near the tip of the nozzle is a small hole, and a small pipe leads back from the hole into the handle. Suction is applied to this pipe using a venturi. When the tank is not full, air is being drawn through the hole by the vacuum, and the air flows easily. When gasoline in the tank rises high enough to block the hole, a mechanical linkage in the handle senses the change in suction and flips the nozzle off.
Here's a way to think about it -- you've got a small pipe with suction being applied at one end and air flowing through the pipe easily. If you stick the free end of the pipe in a glass of water, much more suction is needed, so a vacuum develops in the middle of the pipe. That vacuum can be used to flip a lever that cuts off the nozzle.
The next time you fill up your tank, look for this hole either on the inside or the outside of the tip.
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Re: Kia Rondo Gas Tank overflowing [kierstenhm]
by vwtobmw
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Feb 20, 2009 (8:09 pm)
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Replying to: kierstenhm (Feb 09, 2009 7:10 pm)
I sympathize with you. I was searching this problem and found your comment. I have a new BMW (2009). The second time I got gas, I heard the nozzle on the pump click as though filled and when I started to take the nozzle out, the gas was overflowing down the side of the car and on my shoes. I drove 2 blocks and the car died. The gas wet something in the fuel line. They towed the car . The service dept. ignored what I told them about the gas overflow (I'm a woman, what would I know?)and kept saying they didn't know what the problem was. Eventually they asked me if they tank overflowed, because the fuel line was wet!.....After that I also watched the pump when I got gas. Yesterday, I had a 1/4 of a tank and went to get gas. It took 4 gallons, the nozzle clicked as though done and when I took the nozzle out, the gas started gushing over the side of the car. The gauge in the car says the tank is half full. Now I'm terrified to get gas. I know everyone says the sensor is in the nozzle but is it possible there is a sensor in the car that could be broken? The first time it happened the dealer said they've never had this problem before. I have also gone to different gas stations. Have you gotten anymore info?
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Re: Kia Rondo Gas Tank overflowing [kierstenhm]
by colej2
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Aug 10, 2009 (8:29 am)
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Replying to: kierstenhm (Feb 09, 2009 7:10 pm)
Did you ever find out what the problem was? My 2005 Titan has the same issue and it used to only be a problem when my gastank was full, now it started doing it when my tank is empty making it difficult to fill my tank up w/Gas and not spill half of it on the ground. 
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Re: Kia Rondo Gas Tank overflowing [colej2]
by kierstenhm
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Aug 10, 2009 (9:28 am)
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Replying to: colej2 (Aug 10, 2009 8:29 am)
No, I have not found out what the problem is. Kia is in denial that there is a problem. I actually took one of the mechanics with me to a gas station neighboring their service center and it did not overflow because the gas at that particular station pumps very slowly (it only does it when it is filling quickly). I asked them to go with me to the Sheetz station (the next closest gas station) the next time I went in, but it was 4 miles away and they said they didn't have the time or manpower to go. I'm pretty frustrated with Kia right now. Let me know if you ever find a solution and I'll do the same.
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by colej2
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Aug 10, 2009 (1:45 pm)
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WIll do. Mine has done it for the last 3 years but the recent turn for the worse has me searchign for a solution. Seems like a ventalation issue, will dig through online forums until I get a fix.
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