Last post on Feb 10, 2013 at 5:07 AM
You are in the Toyota Corolla
What is this discussion about?
Toyota Corolla, Sedan
Jan 06, 2010 (10:41 pm)
I read the professional reviews and some of the user feedback on the new 2010 Corolla. As a result I had certain expectations based on some of the less positive comments.
In the first days of driving, I noticed the engine had a very faint but noticeable whine to it. This had me worried a bit because of some of the comments here. But after a bit of driving within the first 100km, the whine went away. The engine was as I had come to expect of my previous Corolla's, quiet. Idling was quiet as well.
Avoided quick starts and hard stops during the first 300km. Made sure to use a mix of speeds from 40km/hr to 90km/hr (mostly stayed to under 80km/hr). Car runs smoothly.
I was most curious about the electronic steering. On the very first day or two I thought I may have fidgeted slightly with the steering wheel. These were very extremely minute movements which I wouldn't even be aware of if not for reading some of the comments posted here. After a couple hundered kilometers more I barely even notice anything. I had driven a Chevy Cobalt rental for a week which also has electronic power steering so I knew what to expect. I didn't notice much of anything different as far as steering is concerned. The only time I noticed anything is when the car was stationary and I turned the steering wheel with great ease (a loose feeling). While the car is moving it felt like any other car I've driven previously.
I like the interior layout of the CE base model (automatic with enhanced option package). It's clean and nicely laid out. Armrest could be more forward. The little flip pocket (to hold parking passes, etc.) on the driver side is a bit low compared to my previous Corolla. I accidentally had it open and knocked my shin into it while getting into the car. Last time I'll forget to flip that little door up and closed (reality is I'll likely do it again a couple of times over the next few years). It was not an issue when that compartment was placed higher up. The higher position is now occupied by a couple of buttons (on my CE there are 2 active buttons and 2 blank ones....will use one of the blank ones to place my car alarm on light).
Neat thing about the radio is the AUX plug for hooking up an iPod. Worse thing is it no longer has a clock. The clock is placed very low down. While driving you would have to take your eyes off the road and look down to see it....it's that low. I have no idea who thought to put the clock down there! Why?? The clock is one of the tools I use a lot of...I check it for the time quite a bit in some situations.
The trunk is big...bit bigger than the one on my 2002 Corolla. It holds 3 tires on rims easily. I'll have to go look at it again to be sure (there are 3 tires in there right now).
Neat little feature which was a bit annoying until I found out how it worked. When you click on the remote, only the driver's door opens. The other 3 doors stay locked. Someone informed me that was designed purposely to do that for safety reasons (I'm not sure about that but makes sense). According to this person anyways, if you need to open the driver door quickly to get inside because of an unsafe situation, the other doors stay locked for security reasons. To open all 4 doors you need to engage the remote button a bit longer or twice (forget now). Interesting anyway.
I also notice there is a longer recommended interval between oil changes even for the FIRST oil change after the break-in period. I seem to recall the FIRST oil change came early on the 2002 Corolla due to engine parts breaking in etc. On the 2010 the interval before the FIRST oil change is the same as for the rest of the oil changes. I wonder what new technology now permits such a long time before you need to change the oil after the break-in period.
The break-in period is different as well from the 2002 Corolla. In the 2010 manual there is no mention about keeping the car under a certain speed within a given period of the break-in time. It just mentions to avoid hard starts and stops during the first 300km. Some precaution about not doing any towing during the break-in period. And for the first 1,600km to avoid "excessive" high speeds. Is 120 km/hr excessive?? Also for the first 1,600km to not drive at the same speed for long periods of time.
As a Toyota owner (Tercel and 2 previous Corolla CE) I am happy with the new 2010 model with the exception of the clock (I would like to know what the person who decided to put the clock that low down on the dash was thinking (or not). I like how it was done previously where the clock display came on after a few seconds tuning into a radio station. Besides, there's plenty of room on the radio display for a clock. Having the clock placed so low is dangerous if one needs to glance at it while driving. Maybe this will be fixed in the next generation of the Corolla.
#101 of 238 Re: New 2010 Corolla [canuckrolla123]
Jan 07, 2010 (7:04 am)
Well I think that happens to quite a few people. They read a couple of critical reviews about a car, then when they purchase this car they actually believe that their car has these problems or concerns also. I guess when you buy a car you should have an open mind because everyones opinion of a certain car can be different.
Is the "great ease" of turning your steering wheel a plus for you or is the "loose feeling" a negative?
When you say the clock is located "very low" where exactly is your clock? On my new Corolla it's incorporated right into the left side odometer button.
Aren't most cars set -up where the doors require a two button push of the remote to open all doors? I really like this function. If my wife is driving alone and wants to open her doors to enter her vehicle she is only opening her door, and not allowing anyone else to get into her vehicle univited with her. She might be parked in a parking lot with someone lurking in a parked car along side of her on the passenger side just waiting for her to open up to jump inside with her.
Don't really believe they call it a break-in period any longer. I think most reasonably driving people would be fine just driving their normal way from day one. The longer oil change intervals can be attributed to the synthetic motor oil being used.
Just love my newest addition to my toyota family of cars and hope you do as well. Good Luck with your new Rolla!
#102 of 238 Re: New 2010 Corolla [terceltom]
Jan 07, 2010 (7:15 am)
I agree 100% with terceltom, if I hadn't read about steering complaints with the Corolla, I would never had thought twice about it. No problems here.
#103 of 238 Re: New 2010 Corolla [terceltom]
Jan 07, 2010 (7:42 am)
This is good information for me. I currently drive a ’98 Accord but looking to upgrade and the Corolla is tops on my list. I’ve briefly driven one and know how it feels inside. At 6’1” late 40’s, I’m fine with it though my wife is a little nervous getting something smaller. Before the Accord we had a ’94 Civic that she thought was too small, especially getting into and out of (she has a bad knee). Thing is, I’m going to be driving it alone 90% of the time and care quite a bit about gas mileage (38 mile round trip commute) so I want smaller. Anyone feel “cramped” in the car or have trouble hauling what you want to haul (e.g. golf clubs)? Someone mentioned the trunk space is pretty good. I currently get 28mph in the winter and about 31-32 in the summer. I drive pretty conservatively and figure I could stretch a Corolla to about 40mph on my usual freeway commute. Thanks
#104 of 238 Re: New 2010 Corolla [terceltom]
Jan 07, 2010 (9:24 am)
The clock's location was moved for the 2010. Many people complained about it being in the odometer I think because it is a shared display (you have to toggle to the clock if you have one. Also, the other people in the car could not see it. Fortunately, Toyota responded, but the only place it could go is I think below the climate controls. You can bet the next generation will move it back up to the middle top of the dash.
Jan 07, 2010 (8:46 pm)
Just an update. I spoke too soon about engine noise. Late yesterday and today I could hear the engine 'growling' each time I started up from a dead stop to 40km/hr. I don't recall my 2002 Corolla sounding like that.
Call me silly or what...maybe a tad paranoid perhaps.....but I only noticed the noise starting late last night. Someone had the car for about 2 minutes. I don't imagine someone could do somthing to it in that short amount of time to affect an engines noise. Nah.
Funny thing is I did not notice the noise up to late last night. I suppose people's perception can't always be relied upon as many factors can come into play (sound of the climate control system affecting perception of noise, etc.).
Having said that, I could almost swear I did not hear the same kind of 'growling' previously. Except for the very faint whine that went away as I broke the car in the initial 300km, the car was very quiet after that. My 2002 Corolla was like that as well. But now, I am very aware of the engine growling moving from a dead stop as at a traffic light. I mean, the sound is very noticeable. For the life of me, I don't know how this noise escaped my attention before.
To Terceltom: My 2002 Corolla CE opened all 4 doors when I pressed the remote.
As for the placement of the clock in the 2010 CE, it is like almost at the bottom of all the controls....let's say almost at seat level. You'd definitely need to take your eye off the road and look down to read the clock. Gee, hurts even more to read that the clock placement was changed starting with the 2010 models. I'd actually prefer it even in the odometer area as mentioned...at least you can still keep your eye on the road that way. Best of all was the way it was on the 2002, on the radio display. A quick glance was all that was needed.
As for the electronic steering, it is a non issue for me. That's how much I would notice any difference. Is it good or bad.......if I don't notice it, then it's good and not an issue.
As for the oil change interval being longer, I think many people are still using regular oil and not synthetic. I don't suppose Toyota can recommend the longer oil change interval based on that. The oil in my brand new 2010 is regular motor oil and not synthetic (I will use synthetic after). However, I will likely just get an oil change (regular oil) at about 3,000km. Then after 8,000km when the "first recommended oil change" is scheduled...I'll then switch to synthetic.
#107 of 238 Re: Rattling noise from trunk? [rosca]
Jan 09, 2010 (3:56 pm)
I have the same problem, and I bought mine on the 31st of 09. It rattles quite a bit on slightly rough roads and at certain RPMs (I have a base with a 5-speed). I tapped on the roof of the trunk (from inside of the trunk just below the center brake light), and heard the same sound. I bet its some plastic electrical connector that is loosely mounted or not mounted at all that's vibrating against the metal (near the trunk light). I have to do some further investigation to pinpoint the source. It may require a trip to the dealer or the simple use of a screwdriver and some foam rubber. Let me know if you come up with anything.
#108 of 238 Re: Rattling noise from trunk? [10corollabase]
Jan 09, 2010 (6:54 pm)
Check the license plate and the little black trunk release cable holders that are mounted on the trunk support arms.
Jan 09, 2010 (7:15 pm)
Went to a local hardware/automotive retailer and saw this very small and light car clock. Cost is about $5. It is small, very light and the right colour too (if your dash colour is black). I hope it lasts a long time but at $5 each, I'll get a few more just in case. It has an adhesive backing (clock is very small so the adhesive patch is small as well) with velcro. Only quibble is that the clock face is not lighted but can still be easily viewed from dawn until it's dark outside. Now I can glance at the clock without having to take my eyes off the road.
Here is a picture of the clock. Looks giantic on the website but it's very small in actuality. Don't go by the package measurements listed on the site.
My 2010 Corolla is breaking in nicely. I am quite happy with all the new features on the car. It's a lot more features than I got on the 2002 CE for about the same price or actually less. A happy Corolla owner.