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#222 of 238 Re: 2010 Toyota Corolla [terceltom]
Jun 09, 2010 (2:37 pm)
My biggest regret ever is trading in my 2004 Corolla LE for a 2010 Avalon. The 2004 Corolla was one excellent car. Mine had 37,000 miles and was literally like new! It had every possible option for that model year, side airbags, ABS, sunroof, FACTORY leather interior, alloys, etc. It took me literally two years to find this car. No dealer in my region would special order this car with these options. They said it was impossible to get one with factory leather and would only offer to get one without the leather and install aftermarket. I refused the aftermarket as the quality and finished product doesn't compare to factory. Finally in December 2003, my local dealer found the car I wanted without the alloys in Boston (30 miles away). They swapped a car on their lot and I purchased this car. I had them put on the alloys that were offered as a Genuine Toyota accessory. It was one gorgeous car, Indigo Ink Pearl with oak leather. I thin I was one of very few people in New England to have a Corolla with this configuration! I felt very lucky driving around in such a hard to find vehicle!
I meticulously maintained this car, synthetic oil changes every 3,000 miles, garaged, washed and waxed regularly. I am the type of person who parks extra far away in a parking lot to avoid dings and shopping carts. The car was exceptional for being nearly 6 years old!
While on vacation in Florida, I was offered a free upgrade and was given an Avalon to rent from Alamo. I fell in love with the Avalon as it drove and handled awesome. Remember in Florida, it's mostly highway driving. I primarily do all city driving and the Corolla was perfect for this. I liked the Avalon so much that I decided to purcahse one last November. I also thought Toyota was going to discontinue the Avalon lineup as there was much speculation about this. So, I stupidly traded in my lovely Corolla for this horrible Avalon. I have posted before that I am very dissatisfied with the Avalon as the transmission has issues while city driving. It's confused, it hesitates and doesn't coast.
I thought long and hard about trading it in for a 2010 Corolla XLE. While carefully examining the current Corolla, the quality just doesn't compare to the 03-08 generation. In my opinion, Toyota really cut corners with this generation. If you look carefully at every detail of both 9th and 10th generations, you begin to notice things. Even looking at the undercarriages of both generations. Just Sunday, I was looking at a 2010 LE's undercarriage. The workmanship is literally sloppy underneath, compound, or undercoating smeared everywhere. Not that this is visible while driving, but the build quality just seems very sloppy. Nowhere near the quality compared to my 04. The 2010 I was looking at was built in Canada. I thought maybe as NUMMI was closing, the morale and work ethics of employees decreased and quality wasn't important, but this was a car built in Canada!
Don't get me wrong, I am still a huge Toyota fan and will only purchase Toyota vehicles. I still think the current Corolla is a good car. The quality and workmanship has partially slipped, but I am confident Toyota realizes this and they are being proactive about it. Hence the delay of the 2011 model year. Also, there is an abundance of 2010 LE's in my region that were built at NUMMI. These cars are NOT moving at all, even with the great incentives since early March! The hottest model selling right now is the Corolla S. These are flying off dealer lots! The S is a much better value, MUCH more features than the LE for a little more money. Thanks for listening to my story! By the way, I've located my 04 Corolla. Someone purchased it in the next town over from me. I saw it in their driveway and know it's my old car by the alloys and window vent visors. I also ran the CARFAX and the report states the second owner registered it in that town. I'm tempted to stop in and introduce myself as the ex. owner of their car! They're lucky to have such a fabulous used car for being 6 years old!
#223 of 238 Re: 2010 Toyota Corolla [ntassistant]
Jun 09, 2010 (5:24 pm)
That's an interesting story. I understand your thoughts entirely and agree with everything you said. I have three Corollas right now and my favorite right now is definitely my 2001 LE. I have a "92" and a "09 XLE" also. I really like my 2009 XLE quite a bit, but I'd rather drive my 2001. Your right about the quality skimping on the recent generation Corolla vs. the older style. I also had a favorite Corolla I wish I never would have gotten rid of. It was a "79" Corolla that drove like a truck, it had manual steering and you felt every bump in the road but it was great. I have previously owned a Celica and a Tercel. All great cars and would have bought them all over again. In a year or two I would love to get a fully loaded Tacoma. Wouldn't think of ever buying any other model car. I have full faith that Toyota will regroup and be a better company for all of their current woes. They sure were a victim of getting too big, too fast and started loosing the one thing that made them #1 in the first place, their known quality.
#224 of 238 Re: 2010 Toyota Corolla [terceltom]
Jun 10, 2010 (2:32 pm)
I agree the 1998-02 generation Corolla was also one very well built generation. Interior materials are top notch for the compact class. I drove a 2001 LE as a rental for an entire week in Florida and absolutely loved it! Gas mileage was awesome and the excellent build quality was certainly noticeable.
What I loved about the 03-08 generation was the height of the vehicle. It was super easy getting in and out of the car as it wasn't so low as previous generations!
I also currently own a 1989 Corolla sedan and love this generation as well. With 150,000 miles, the engine still runs like new. Too bad the metal was cheap in those days and the car now has excessive body rot that started 10 years ago. It's only used as a spare car and rarely driven. I certainly have gotten my moneys' worth out of this car!
#225 of 238 Re: 2010 Toyota Corolla [ntassistant]
Jun 11, 2010 (6:18 am)
That's for sure, my "79" Corolla and my "86" Tercel were "rust buckets" but the motors ran forever. I used to take strips of aluminum as patches and rivet them on the body, then try to match the paint as close as I could. You gotta admit though, that's one area I think all car manufacturers really came leaps and bounds on, is the integrity of the cars body.
Jun 11, 2010 (4:56 pm)
Not that this information is 100% accurate, but it does look like Toyota is delaying the release of the 2011 Corolla until December. As far back as I can recall, this hasn't happened before with the Corolla. Toyota usually begins assembling the new model year in early March and cars reach dealer lots in April. Here is some information about the 2011 model:
#228 of 238 2009/2010 mat recall notice received
Jun 26, 2010 (6:03 am)
Yesterday I received my recall notice for my floor mat recall. Not quite sure what they are going to do though. I suspect they're going to give me new floor mats. The recall notice states that "Toyota will modify the floor surface in the driver's foot well as well as the pedal itself". I already had the wedge put into the pedal at a separate recall. It also states if the optional "all weather floor mats" are of the older style they will replace them on the passenger side and the drivers side free of charge. The only part that concerns me is the "modification of the pedal and the foot well".
#229 of 238 TSB for 2009/2010 evaporator replacement for odor
Jun 26, 2010 (6:05 am)
Talked to a buddy of mine who works at my local Toyota dealership. I asked him about the TSB for the evaporator replacement. He said while the TSB states the the replacement job takes 4.5 hours to complete he said it's more like a 6 hour job as the whole dash has to be removed first just to get to the evaporator. So I guess I'm going to live with this odor for about 30 seconds when I first turn on my A.C. rather than have my whole car torn apart for the replacement. He did give me the Petro A/C Chemical cleaner that most Toyota dealers use and sell to try on my car. They'll do it for you for about $60.00 but really, it only takes about 30 minutes of your time to do it yourself. The only drawback is you have to crawl halfway under the car to get to the A/C drain hose. This is a two can foam system; you shoot half the can up the rubber A.C. drain hose into the evaporator. After it turns to a liquid and drains out you repeat with the second half of the can. After that, you use the smaller 6 oz. can to totally disinfect the air intake and ductwork. I did this last night, I'll post about my success with this or not.
#230 of 238 Re: TSB for 2009/2010 evaporator replacement for odor [terceltom]
Jun 26, 2010 (5:26 pm)
My 04 Corolla had this same problem with the AC odor. Last summer before I traded it, dealer suggested I have the AC system charged and deodorized, but I never did as the AC always blew cold air. I'm assuming this is common with most Toyotas or all cars equipped with AC? As you mentioned, the odor goes away quickly once the air is turned on. I also notice this with my 2010 Avalon as well. There is a faint mildew or moldy smell initially, when the AC is turned on.
As for your post about the pedal and floor modification for the separate recall, I just had this done on my Avalon yesterday. I went in for my first oil change and the service advisor notified me of the second phase of the recall. I never received an official notice from Toyota, but the dealer said they could perform the fix for the recall. I don't notice any modifications with the carpet or carpet pad in my Avalon. The Avalon has carpet pad under the carpet for extra soundproofing (I assume for this reason). Nothing looks to be modified on the floor, just the pedal itself has been trimmed on the bottom portion (corners) of the pedal. They also installed the brake override system, which shuts the engine down when the brake and accelerator are pressed at the same time. With the oil change and recall fix, it took about 2 1/2 hours. Originally they told me only one hour. I peeked through window of where the service bays are and two technicians were working on my car for the recall fix.
#231 of 238 Re: TSB for 2009/2010 evaporator replacement for odor [ntassistant]
Jun 27, 2010 (5:03 am)
Thanks for the info.