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#215 of 238 Re: 2010 Toyota Corolla [Burgundia]
Jun 03, 2010 (8:43 pm)
Still hanging around after trading my 09 Corolla XLE for my 2008 Subaru Outlback (yep, I went backwards a year on a very low Mileage Loaded Outback...
That was a GOOD list of improvements you assembled! IMHO
FWIW, I think they should also add an emergency gas door release in the trunk! The Subbie does not have one either, and the release tab's metal on the Corolla is just SO THIN that over time, it does bend and the door can get stuck shut! The Corolla should offer H.I.D headlights as an option...missed them Just my 2 cents! REFINE the good points!!!!! Loved the Trac and VSC last winter, but missed the heated seats and outside mirrors which I have now!
A pie in the sky suggestion,but why not offer an AWD version of the Corolla...the matrix has some sort of AWD package you can add.
Good luck to all
#216 of 238 Re: 2010 Toyota Corolla [gizzer777]
Jun 04, 2010 (3:29 pm)
"The Subbie does not have one either, and the release tab's metal on the Corolla is just SO THIN that over time, it does bend and the door can get stuck shut!"
I noticed this immediately while looking at the 10th generation Corollas. Both the trunk and fuel filler door release handles located on the driver's side floor area are made of a cheap, flimsy metal and have stickers for decals. This is another way Toyota decided to cut costs and "move backwards". My 1989 Corolla had the exact same release handles and you're correct, over time they bend and the stickers peel right off. The Corollas haven't had these same release handles since the 1988-1992 generation (I think). My '04 Corolla had sturdy release handles made of a thick plastic with the decals lasered right into them. Never once had a problem with the 04. Even the Yaris has the better quality plastic release handles.
If you really examine the 10th generation Corolla all around in person, you begin to see the many ways Toyota cut costs.
#217 of 238 Re: 2010 Toyota Corolla [ntassistant]
Jun 05, 2010 (5:51 am)
Perhaps these gas door "cheaper release tabs" you posted about were a change for 2010. On my 2009 Corolla I have the same tabs as my 2001 Corolla. Rigid metal and never a problem.
#219 of 238 Re: 2010 Toyota Corolla [ntassistant]
Jun 07, 2010 (5:38 am)
Yes I have to agree that the tabs on the 2009/2010 Corolla fuel door are cheaper looking than previous models. I don't necessarily agree that the metal is thin and will bend, but I do like the looks of earlier style much better. I want to recall my post #217 as this was wrong information. I have/had so many Toyotas that sometime I post with the wrong model in mind.
#220 of 238 Re: 2010 Toyota Corolla [terceltom]
Jun 08, 2010 (5:43 pm)
I was looking at my local dealership on Sunday morning. I happened to see a 2001 Corolla LE in the row containing cars going to be sent to the auction. I peeked at the relese tabs and they look exactly like the 2003-08 generation tabs. I figured you might see this on your 2001 as well!
I have been doing some extensive research on these tabs. Apparently on the 03-08 generation, there is actually a release cable for both gas door and trunk. On the 09-present Corolla, there isn't a release cable. I found this by searching on "body hardware" category for the Corolla on the Toyota Parts database on my dealership's website. I compared the two generations and realized this. This is confusing because they both do the same function, but look different and are different materials. I just wish Toyota would go back to the plastic tabs on the Corolla! Heck, even the Yaris has the better quality tabs!
#221 of 238 Re: 2010 Toyota Corolla [ntassistant]
Jun 08, 2010 (6:25 pm)
That's really interesting! I do agree the older style are more stylish. Thanks for the info.
#222 of 238 Re: 2010 Toyota Corolla [terceltom]
Jun 09, 2010 (2:37 pm)
My biggest regret ever is trading in my 2004 Corolla LE for a 2010 Avalon. The 2004 Corolla was one excellent car. Mine had 37,000 miles and was literally like new! It had every possible option for that model year, side airbags, ABS, sunroof, FACTORY leather interior, alloys, etc. It took me literally two years to find this car. No dealer in my region would special order this car with these options. They said it was impossible to get one with factory leather and would only offer to get one without the leather and install aftermarket. I refused the aftermarket as the quality and finished product doesn't compare to factory. Finally in December 2003, my local dealer found the car I wanted without the alloys in Boston (30 miles away). They swapped a car on their lot and I purchased this car. I had them put on the alloys that were offered as a Genuine Toyota accessory. It was one gorgeous car, Indigo Ink Pearl with oak leather. I thin I was one of very few people in New England to have a Corolla with this configuration! I felt very lucky driving around in such a hard to find vehicle!
I meticulously maintained this car, synthetic oil changes every 3,000 miles, garaged, washed and waxed regularly. I am the type of person who parks extra far away in a parking lot to avoid dings and shopping carts. The car was exceptional for being nearly 6 years old!
While on vacation in Florida, I was offered a free upgrade and was given an Avalon to rent from Alamo. I fell in love with the Avalon as it drove and handled awesome. Remember in Florida, it's mostly highway driving. I primarily do all city driving and the Corolla was perfect for this. I liked the Avalon so much that I decided to purcahse one last November. I also thought Toyota was going to discontinue the Avalon lineup as there was much speculation about this. So, I stupidly traded in my lovely Corolla for this horrible Avalon. I have posted before that I am very dissatisfied with the Avalon as the transmission has issues while city driving. It's confused, it hesitates and doesn't coast.
I thought long and hard about trading it in for a 2010 Corolla XLE. While carefully examining the current Corolla, the quality just doesn't compare to the 03-08 generation. In my opinion, Toyota really cut corners with this generation. If you look carefully at every detail of both 9th and 10th generations, you begin to notice things. Even looking at the undercarriages of both generations. Just Sunday, I was looking at a 2010 LE's undercarriage. The workmanship is literally sloppy underneath, compound, or undercoating smeared everywhere. Not that this is visible while driving, but the build quality just seems very sloppy. Nowhere near the quality compared to my 04. The 2010 I was looking at was built in Canada. I thought maybe as NUMMI was closing, the morale and work ethics of employees decreased and quality wasn't important, but this was a car built in Canada!
Don't get me wrong, I am still a huge Toyota fan and will only purchase Toyota vehicles. I still think the current Corolla is a good car. The quality and workmanship has partially slipped, but I am confident Toyota realizes this and they are being proactive about it. Hence the delay of the 2011 model year. Also, there is an abundance of 2010 LE's in my region that were built at NUMMI. These cars are NOT moving at all, even with the great incentives since early March! The hottest model selling right now is the Corolla S. These are flying off dealer lots! The S is a much better value, MUCH more features than the LE for a little more money. Thanks for listening to my story! By the way, I've located my 04 Corolla. Someone purchased it in the next town over from me. I saw it in their driveway and know it's my old car by the alloys and window vent visors. I also ran the CARFAX and the report states the second owner registered it in that town. I'm tempted to stop in and introduce myself as the ex. owner of their car! They're lucky to have such a fabulous used car for being 6 years old!
#223 of 238 Re: 2010 Toyota Corolla [ntassistant]
Jun 09, 2010 (5:24 pm)
That's an interesting story. I understand your thoughts entirely and agree with everything you said. I have three Corollas right now and my favorite right now is definitely my 2001 LE. I have a "92" and a "09 XLE" also. I really like my 2009 XLE quite a bit, but I'd rather drive my 2001. Your right about the quality skimping on the recent generation Corolla vs. the older style. I also had a favorite Corolla I wish I never would have gotten rid of. It was a "79" Corolla that drove like a truck, it had manual steering and you felt every bump in the road but it was great. I have previously owned a Celica and a Tercel. All great cars and would have bought them all over again. In a year or two I would love to get a fully loaded Tacoma. Wouldn't think of ever buying any other model car. I have full faith that Toyota will regroup and be a better company for all of their current woes. They sure were a victim of getting too big, too fast and started loosing the one thing that made them #1 in the first place, their known quality.
#224 of 238 Re: 2010 Toyota Corolla [terceltom]
Jun 10, 2010 (2:32 pm)
I agree the 1998-02 generation Corolla was also one very well built generation. Interior materials are top notch for the compact class. I drove a 2001 LE as a rental for an entire week in Florida and absolutely loved it! Gas mileage was awesome and the excellent build quality was certainly noticeable.
What I loved about the 03-08 generation was the height of the vehicle. It was super easy getting in and out of the car as it wasn't so low as previous generations!
I also currently own a 1989 Corolla sedan and love this generation as well. With 150,000 miles, the engine still runs like new. Too bad the metal was cheap in those days and the car now has excessive body rot that started 10 years ago. It's only used as a spare car and rarely driven. I certainly have gotten my moneys' worth out of this car!