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#1 of 238 2010 Toyota Corolla
Feb 09, 2009 (4:09 pm)
Toyota has announced that their 2010 Corollas will start arriving at dealerships in late February.
According to this press release, VSC and TC are now standard on the 2010. Also, the MSRP will be the same for 2010 as for 2009.
What do you think this will do to the 2009 prices? Will dealers just extend the current cash rebate & low rate financing, or will the discounts get even steeper?
#2 of 238 What else changed?
Feb 12, 2009 (9:15 pm)
Is the addition of VSC the only improvement over the 2009? I hope it's not true! Toyota is not blind. Didn't they read all the complaints and suggested improvements here on edmunds?
If they did not read it yet, let me male a short list of suggested improvements from various sites:
- Move the clock to the radio area (add date/day of week if possible);
- Improve steering feel;
- Illuminated controls for power windows, door locks & mirrors;
- 8 way power driver’s seat w/lumbar support;
- Armrest position needs improvement, as per many;
- Radio backlighting should be blue to match other controls (XLE);
- Make the LCD bigger and higher resolution so it contains more info at a time (see Elantra). Every cheap gadget these days have high-res LCD’s with a wealth of information! and get rid of the pixelated fonts;
- Fog lamps on XLE;
- Heated outside mirrors standard on the XLE (Elantra offer them standard on all models);
- No intrusive hinges on trunk;
- Offer heat elements for the front wipers like on the Sienna;
- Make Bluetooth available on all models, not just on the navigation models - after all we all use cell phones these days (see Nissan Versa) - Import all contacts & photo ID automatically, & they should appear even when in Drive.
#3 of 238 Re: What else changed? [samnoe]
Feb 13, 2009 (6:22 am)
Moving the clock is the only BIG issue, IMHO, but they won't do that until MAYBE the 2011, when they normally make bigger changes. 2010 is only the second year of the 10th generation Corolla, and Toyota normally does not make any larger changes until the third year. I've seen all the other complaints that you listed above on Carspace and other forums, but the big one is the clock.
I think making VSC standard is the only thing that is really important to most, and Toyota knows it. The rest is pretty nit-picky, especially for cars in this size/price range.
Besides, in this economy, no automaker is going to make any big changes in the second year. Also, the Corolla's sales for last year were VERY strong, so Toyota won't change much.
#4 of 238 Re: What else changed? [samnoe]
Feb 13, 2009 (8:54 am)
How much are you willing to pay for a Corolla with features that you listed? Because I think you are looking pretty far north of $20k, before adding things like leather and nav. Some of these changes wouldn't cost much, but some like 8-way power seat would. FYI, few economy cars have power seats. I can only think of a couple that offer them--the Jetta (only on higher trims) and I think the 2010 Mazda3s will offer it.
Personally I applaud Toyota for making VSC and TC standard on every Corolla for 2010, ahead of the Federal mandate for ESC, without raising the price. I'd like to see other changes too, including higher-quality materials in the interior, but standard VSC is arguably the best change Toyota could have made as it improves the safety of the car significantly.
#6 of 238 update EPS Powersteering
Feb 16, 2009 (10:38 pm)
Maybe the 2nd generation of the power steering will get a tweak. The day of only using one hand are gone with the 2009 Corolla. It's just a different animal.
Mar 24, 2009 (4:23 am)
2009 S type are starting under $15k now so there is a good chunk of change less now if you want to avoid the VSC and TC and save a couple thousand.
#8 of 238 Steering malfunction - disable the EPS Steering
Mar 26, 2009 (12:48 pm)
I saw a few folks are now pleased and can drive like normal again by removing the Electric power steering relay and putting in a switch in extra unused spot near driver.. It would not veer a nd you can drive it as if it was intended to be.
I drove on with it's "disconnected" and it was awesome! I could even steer it just fine in the city.
#9 of 238 Re: Steering malfunction - disable the EPS Steering [USA2007]
Mar 26, 2009 (1:48 pm)
Glad to hear that you are now satisfied with your sterring. However, by disabling the EPS I would strongly dissagree with your statement that you are "now driving it as Toyota intended it to be". They would have never introduced EPS if that's "how they intended it to be".
#10 of 238 Re: What else changed? [samnoe]
Jun 01, 2009 (9:12 pm)
Bluetooth comes with the JBL stereo. You can't even get factory bluetooth with nav.
Adding clock to the radio or somewhere else with a dedicated display needs to be done. Some of the things you listed like 8 way power seats are not going to happen, but the clock is a simple fix they should not ignore. It is outrageous where it is now.
The location of the clock did play in a role in my decision to not buy the 2009 Corolla.
I looked in my area on the Toyota site today and they aren't even making XLEs for California right now. You can't build one with the online configurator.
Bluetooth is now a lame dealer/port add-on "BLU Logic" instead of factory integrated.