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#65 of 433 Re: [kdhspyder]
May 13, 2009 (7:23 am)
Hey Bob, looking for some expert interpretation of Toyota Literature.
On PriusChat they are saying the JBL and NAV versions of the 2010 will be satellite radio "ready" with a 90 day trial subscription to XM. I believe they are even quoting "Team Prius". I'm new there so I don't really know the various members yet. There is a lot of knowledge there but there is also a lot of BS speculation that is passed off as fact (like the huge benefit of nitrogen in tires).
I don't see this anywhere in the literature. In fact the 2010 literature reads pretty much like the 2007 and 2009 literature from my TCH and HH and that is:
New literature says "integrated satellite radio capability" and the old literature simply says "satellite radio capability".
Am I missing something or did Toyota take this an extra step in 2010 and add the XM actually built into the radio? Past experience is making me skeptical of their claims, although I'm hoping they are correct as I plan to have NAV and would like XM if all I have to do is pay the subscription.
#66 of 433 Re: Satellite Radio [wvgasguy]
May 13, 2009 (1:54 pm)
I clearly do not know for sure, but my 06 Dodge truck came satellite ready. I called (Sirus in this case) gave them the code that displayed on the radio, and we had satellite radio .... but we did have to subscribe.
That is what I am expecting with my new vehicle.
#67 of 433 Re: [wvgasguy]
May 13, 2009 (3:46 pm)
I'll double check tomorrow but I believe that the two different terms are ..
satellite radio 'capable' - means that with the addition of an antenna and receiver that XM can be added.
satellite radio 'ready' ( 90 day trial ) - means that the antenna and receiver are already installed and that there is a very limited 90 day trial of a few stations.
I think that all the JBL systems in the future will be satellite 'ready'. Some such as the new 2010 Camry have a USB port installed also.
#68 of 433 Re: [kdhspyder]
May 13, 2009 (5:45 pm)
Someone on PriusChat today did show specs that showed the tuner was included and that there was a 90 day trial. However I don't know where they got the info, though it looked official. One article from the preview mentioned it as well. But the Toyota website brocheur simply called it capable, which is the same terms used in the past and I know those radios required the tuner being added.
Seems like Toyota is missing an opportunity by not pointing this out if true. Many people complain about the JBL and NAV costs but if they add the tuner they become more reasonable in cost.
I see the USB will be available in Sept on the new Prius.
#69 of 433 Seat Paddng and Comfort
May 14, 2009 (6:29 am)
Yesterday, my wife and I spent an hour as passengers in a friends 2009 Prius with leather seats. Afterwards, my wife said she would not consider a 2010 because the seats were terribly uncomfortable.
Has anyone read anything about improved seats in the 2010 Prius?
Might cloth seats be more comfortable than leather?
Might an upholstery shop improve the seating comfort?
Has anyone else found the same complaint?
#70 of 433 2007 Prius Trunk Lid Strut-Dangerous Incident
May 14, 2009 (8:29 am)
1. After I opened the automatic electric garage door and waited in my 2007 Prius for my wife to enter from our home and to seat herself in the front passenger seat, I started the vehicle, geared it into reverse to prepare to back out of our attached indoor garage.
2. Instantly as I started to back up and not proceeding more than about 18 inches we heard a loud explosive sound accompanied by a tremor and shattering glass. I immediately shut off the engine and we both exited the vehicle. We discovered that the right rear pressurized gas strut catapulted with such force through the rear hatchback trunk lid window shattering the glass on its trajectory towards the garage door, the impact of the strut damaged the metal railing of the door making the garage door inoperable. Had anyone been in the path of the strut they could have been killed. The rear trunk lid did not collide with any part of the garage door - the back of the vehicle was at least two feet inside the open garage door. There were no injuries but it was a close call for us. We had both just moments before and moments apart passed in front of the same path from where the strut exited the rear trunk lid window.
3. Upon my insistence the vehicle was towed to our Toyota dealer's garage for inspection and eventually repaired. I have most of the old parts at my home.
Note: There was no fire involved in this incident but the damage caused by the strut is identical to ones caused by struts being involved in a fire. I was informed that this never happened before.
The complaint listed above is to warn automobile consumers of a potentially dangerous incident that could possibly happen to owners of any make of vehicle that has a hatchback with pressurized gas struts controlling the movement of the rear trunk lid door. The complaint has been posted by me for the purpose of obtaining feedback from vehicle owners who may have had a similar experience. Your collective feedback could help save lives or serious injuries.
#71 of 433 Re: 2007 Prius Trunk Lid Strut-Dangerous Incident [bela1]
May 14, 2009 (8:36 am)
Wow, glad you're both okay.
I look with interest to see if this is largely an under-reported or erroneous incident.
#72 of 433 Re: Seat Paddng and Comfort [felt]
May 14, 2009 (9:26 am)
As it was pointed out to me on I think another forum that it isn't wise to mess with the factory seats and some have side air bags plus most have sensors built in to tell if anyone is sitting in the passenger seat etc. May void your warranty in a crash if they find you have messed with the seats. Don't know this for a fact but I hadn't thought about that when I too made the suggestion of redoing the seats but it does make a lot of sense and I'm sure in a law suit that will be at the top of Toyota's list.
#73 of 433 Re: 2007 Prius Trunk Lid Strut-Dangerous Incident [bela1]
May 14, 2009 (10:26 am)
It's good no one was injured.
What is particularly remarkable about this problem is that the struts that support the hatch, when the lid is closed, are parallel to the hatch glass. Also the struts are nearly horizontal, since the hatch is so steeply raked. And the struts are locked down by bolts at each end, plus are constrained within the metal channel between the hatch opening and C pillar. So the amount of force exerted by these struts must be incredible, to launch the strut out of its restraining bolts and out of the steel channel, and somehow push through the glass hatch. I never knew these struts had so much power in them. I own three vehicles with such struts now, so I will pay more attention to them in the future.
#74 of 433 Re: Seat Paddng and Comfort [felt]
May 14, 2009 (11:42 am)
ONe of the common complaints about the Gen 2 Prius is about the seating. It's essentially unadjustable, ditto the steering wheel. Both have been 'fixed' say the early reviewers of the 2010.
That being said it's absolutely a personal issue/preference. The Prius is not a luxury vehicle so it is not as smooth and quiet as say an Avalon or any Bimmer or Caddy, but it is quiet in its own way. The seating is definitely personal because each of us had different strains and pressures. I find this Gen 2 to be the most comfortable vehicle I've ever had after a Chrysler LHS, 4 Camry's, a Solara Convertible. I can ride for hours with no adjustments, it just fits me perfectly.
Our Highlander is more comfortable though.