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Dodge Caravan, Chrysler Voyager, Plymouth Grand Voyager, Van
#6 of 25 Re: Plymouth Grand Voyager [shopdog97]
Feb 16, 2009 (9:48 am)
It's a tough call. I cannot fathom how a oxygen sensor could affect your tach and speedometer, though it would certainly impact fuel economy. But I would also think that those two gauges are controlled by different sensors, since they are tracking speeds from different components (engine versus wheel speed).
Good luck with it; please share the resolution, if found.
#7 of 25 Re: Plymouth Grand Voyager [xwesx]
Feb 16, 2009 (12:38 pm)
I stopped at a local garage today and spoke with the owner on my son's behalf. He has been in business for over 30 years and I have faith in his work. When I described to him what's going on(or rather, NOT going on) with the speedo and tach, he was just about positive that it isn't the output speed sensor as we thought. The ECM would almost always set the code for that, and we aren't seeing it. Daryl(the shop owner)said that if the computer is working right, it would have given us that code. We checked all the fuses both under the hood and under the dash, and nothing appears amiss. My boy tells me now that his horn also doesn't work(it does blow when he locks the van remotely, so I'm thinking maybe the relay??) This again leads me to suspect other electrical issues, and I will suggest to my son that he get the van into Daryl's shop and at least have him diagnose the problem and move on from there. Like anything else this takes $$$$, something he doesn't have much of. He also found out that the spare tire mounting device is shot(probably why the previous owner had the tire and wheel in his garage instead of on the vehicle) He called a local dealer to get a price on a new one and it was absolutely rediculous. A local salvage yard had about 10 vans in stock, but knew all too well about this issue and said that none of his were any good. So for now he'll have to just keep the tire in the back in case he needs it until he finds one. It just bolts up underneath. He said he may found something on E-bay, so we'll see. Thanks again for your interest and when I know what's going on, I'll come back in and let you know. Have a great day!
#8 of 25 Re: Plymouth Grand Voyager [shopdog97]
Feb 20, 2009 (7:03 am)
Just a follow-up on my son's Grand Voyager: We did take it to this garage I spoke about earlier and I am waiting(rather anxiously)to hear now(10AM Friday the 20th) just what's going on. It is a lot more complicated that I could ever have expected. I think the former owner was told to get rid of this van when he started having these issues. Not everyone is honest and truthful, and that includes a 72 year old widower. This garage narrowed the problem to the ignition switch yesterday and we gave them authorization to replace it, but then I got call late in the afternoon and was told the thing went to what is known as Lock-Out Mode. It wouldn't even start or anything. The service manager called in favor from a former employee who now works at a local Chrysler dealership and has access to equipment to further diagnose this issue. This was supposed to happen late yesterday afternoon and we know nothing more at this point. We are hoping that no news turns out to be good news. The bottom line is let the buyer beware. I told my son that there are no guarantees in life and just to move on from here. I'll come back in later and let you know what the verdict is.
#9 of 25 Re: Plymouth Grand Voyager [shopdog97]
Feb 20, 2009 (9:34 am)
That's amazing. And, you are completely right about that statement, "not everyone is honest and truthful." I was extremely leery about purchasing my '98 Grand Caravan a couple years ago, and thought for sure I was making a huge mistake, but it turned out that the seller really was honest.
#10 of 25 Re: Plymouth Grand Voyager [xwesx]
Feb 21, 2009 (6:50 am)
Hello again. We now know what is wrong with my son's Grand Voyager. The manager of the garage called to inform us that the circuit board(behind the instrument cluster)is defective and must be replaced. Initially they suspected it was in the ignition switch and replaced it, but it did no good. Can you believe that they didn't charge him for that? Because that was not the fix, they wouldn't charge for that! I find that truly amazing. Someone from a local Chrysler dealership came in to use a DVR to help diagnose the problem and between him and 3 other techs they narrowed it down to this circuit board, which is why the speedo and tach aren't working. There is a remote possibility it could also be the BCM(Body Control Module) But they are leaning towards the board first. I am now convinced that the former owner did something to cause a surge of power by incorrectly jumping the battery or maybe reversing the terminals. None of that really matters now, so it's time to move on and fix it. The garage owner told me that these boards were notorious for going out on these vehicles and their related siblings, the Dodge Caravan and Chrysler Town and Country. I have to wonder if there was ever a recall on them. But he and another tech said that if the incorrect jumping proceedure was used and sparks flew, that would have been enough to fry this board. The bad news is that this part is $750.00 installed. And the man at the Chrysler Dealership must come back with the laptop and reprogram the computer once the board is replaced. Ain't life grand?? The garage may be willing to make payment arrangements with my son, as his only income is from Social Security due to a disability. These people were so wonderful to us , God bless them. When I took him to pick up the van yesterday they wouldn't even take the $80.00 diagnostic fee, they said they'd apply it to the total of swapping the board. It'd be a nicer world if everyone in business had their philosophy, they went over and above the call of duty in this case. Sorry for being so windy. Thanks for the support.
#11 of 25 Re: Plymouth Grand Voyager [shopdog97]
Feb 23, 2009 (11:01 am)
Great story. I hope that it will be fixed with this attempt and the van will perform well going forward. Sounds like you really found the right place to take your business!
#12 of 25 Re: Plymouth Grand Voyager [xwesx]
Mar 01, 2009 (11:13 am)
Thanks again for responding, xwesx. We're taking the van in later today to have that circuit board replaced tomorrow(Monday). I also am praying that this will cure this situation and my son will have a vehicle that has a working speedometer and tach and hopefully the horn and the cruise control as well. He had an issue with his coolant pipe leading to the rear heater last Thursday. Now I saw this the week before when I changed the O2 sensor the week before last. Apparently Chrysler let these vehicles(i.e. the Caravan and the T&C as well) leave the factory without much undercoating or other protection on these underside pipes. When I saw this seepage I told him I wouldn't be suprised if it didn't let loose before the winter was over. If you have one of these vans and DON'T live in the Rustbelt(or Pa.) like we do)then you might be OK. Well, dear old Dad was right and ol' faithful let loose just as he pulled up outside our home. The fix was simple enough, although you don't have very much room to work on these &**## bleepin' things!! Got the cuts on the hands to prove it, too. Just needed to re-route the plumbing, and when all was said and done, there were no leaks and there's plenty of heat up front, and of course no more to the rear. Oh well, life goes on. The only other option is to replace the underside pipes and that ain't gonna happen. I'll stop back in after this upcoming repair and let ya know how we made out.
#13 of 25 1998 ply voyager transmission Problems
Mar 02, 2009 (9:40 am)
im new here and i ve been reading all post about transmission. i have a 1998 voyager with 147k on it. my problem is when i am getting to speed up, it sounds like the transmission limps or hard shifting or something its hard to explain but after that it runs fine then when i slow down it does it again. im afraid it will damage the tarnny completely. i checked the fluid and its on add so i added and still same thing. while at running it sounds like it jerk when it upshift then gone when at high speed then when you slow down it jerks again.
another issue is , i have this blinking lights on the ac switch, defroster switch, wiper switch for the back window below the radio panel , they are continously bloinking then sometimes they turn off but most of the time it does it and i dont know if my ac is on or defroster is on?
does anyone has this problem?
i noticed something too that on the tranny there is a wire hanging with a white terminal and i dont know what this is?
any help wll do or input will do?
#14 of 25 Air bag light always on
Mar 10, 2009 (9:22 am)
Just wanted to know why the Air Bag indicator is always lit on my son's 96' Grand Voyager. Now it has been lit since he got it, and readers of this blog will note that there have been some electrical issue in this van. (The speedo and tach are now A-OK) but I was wondering what would cause the air bag light to remain on. The garage that fixed the other thing told me that it's NOT supposed to be lit. Any ideas or remedies would be greatly appreciated. We also have to see why the horn doesn't work as well. Nothing happens when you press on the wheel, no nothing. Usually you can hear the relay clicking or something. Could the relay be bad? The horn itself works when he locks the doors with the key fob. Unless the problem is in the horn switch itself. Don't we have to disable the air bag when taking off the steering wheel? I thank you for all suggestions.
#15 of 25 Re: Air bag light always on [shopdog97]
Mar 10, 2009 (10:21 am)
Both the Air Bag light and Horn problem will most likely be cured with a new clockspring in the steering wheel. There was a recall on your model clockspring back in 1998 or 1999 and, if yours wasn't replaced then, a Dealer will probably replace it for free.