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#99 of 129 2009 Odyssey Oil Consuption
Sep 07, 2011 (7:03 pm)
I am having the same oil consumption problem with my 2009 Odyssey with 30,000 miles and I have been given the same responses from the dealership and Corporate - but I am documenting it well - this will be my third time back to the dealership. The first time I realized it I was getting my oil changed at a Jiffy Lube and was told that it was not showing on the dipstick and I thought the technician was looney - but I looked myself and sure enough - it was not showing on the dipstick. I was in shock and when I took it to Honda they said that since I had changed the oil - that they could not even start the "Consumption" test until they could confirm that the engine was using oil so they told me to bring it back if it did it again. I should have screamed at that time. When it happened again, then the test was technically started and they changed my oil and I now have had the problem occur again. The oil loss is eratic - meaning I cannot identify whether it is when it is in "ECO" mode or not but I am assumining the problem is when it reduces to fewer number of cylinders - then something must be occuring that is causing the oil to be consumed somehow...it is not leaking. I cannot believe Honda is taking this stance that oil consumption is acceptable and I am sure they are aware of the problem and are working feverishly to engineer an "Economic" solution. Honda has too much on the line to risk bad publicity over this.
#100 of 129 Re: 2009 Odyssey Oil Consuption [jones6789]
Sep 08, 2011 (1:11 am)
Sorry to hear of your issues. Honda already supposedly "fixed" the issue with a different piston ring and moly coated skirts on the 2011 VCM. This is why dealers are insisting buyers do NOT change their oil until the MM hits 15% or less (they want that moly in there for a while) even though this usually works out to 7500+ miles. We own one in an Accord and I hope it works. This is a tacit admission on their part that they understand their is a problem. It's also a good lesson for those of you who are not real buffs when it comes to maintenance....you NEED to perform basic safety checks on all your vehicles at least monthly. This includes at the very least checking fluids under the hood and tire pressure. Especially a minivan where you probably risk your family every day. The consumption on these VCMs is not right but as the owner, you bear some responsibility for basic maintenance checks.
#101 of 129 2006 Odyssey oil changes 1500 miles!?
Sep 08, 2011 (9:17 am)
Our 06 Odyssey Touring has 70K miles. We have been monitoring the oil consumption and it seems to be getting worse. My gauge said 50% so I decided to see how much oil had disappeared. When I checked, the stick barely had any oil on it. We love this van but I still can't believe that Honda hasn't recalled this motor. We should all be contacting our local newspapers and screaming about this! 1500 mile oil changes is insane- especially for a Honda! Dealer just says- "you should check your oil every time you fill up with gas" What a joke.
At least Toyota had the balls to do a massive recall and fix their probs. Honda needs to step up and do the right thing.
#102 of 129 Honda's response
Sep 13, 2011 (6:59 pm)
When I finally was able to speak with the person at Honda North America it was not helpful - they were unsympathetic and denied that Honda Odysseys have any problems with oil consumption. However, they did tell us that the service manager at our local dealership wanted us to bring the van back in. When we took the van back in the service manager was very helpful and understanding. He had his team take the engine apart and acknowledged that there was some type of problem because the pistons were washed clean and they are supposed to have carbon build up on them. So, they replaced the bottom half of the engine. We are grateful that there was some response, but our preference was for them to take this van back and start over with a new one, but that was not an option. I am just concerned that we may have other problems and just don't feel safe. We are lucky to have the service manager that we did because if it weren't for him we would just be completely out of luck. I remain disappointed and frustrated with Honda as a company and will not purchase another Honda vehicle.
#103 of 129 Re: Honda's response [austinody]
Sep 13, 2011 (7:54 pm)
So, Honda paid for a very expensive warranty repair. Good for them and you. The important question is, did it fix your problem?
#104 of 129 TSB 11-033 Issued to Help Address Engine Oil Consumption
Sep 28, 2011 (9:59 am)
Honda issued TSB 11-033 "Engine Oil Consumption; MIL May Be On With DTC P3400 and/or P3497" to help address the engine oil consumption issue. The issue is related to the VCM function repeatedly switching on/off under specific driving conditions. A PCM software update is available.
2008–10 Odyssey EX-L, Touring – ALL
2011 Odyssey – From VIN 5FNRL5H..BB000001 thru 5FNRL5H..BB062427
#105 of 129 Re: Honda Odyssey Oil Consumption Problem [frustrated2009]
May 09, 2012 (9:41 pm)
I could have written this email. I am in the middle of this nightmare right now. They want to tear apart the engine to identify the problem for $2000!!!
#106 of 129 re: OIL CONSUMPTION AND MULITPLE OTHER HUGE PROBLEMS [dendro]
May 09, 2012 (9:45 pm)
I am in the middle of this nightmare right now!
burning up oil and complaining for the last year and now they say they can't do anything short of tearing the engine apart to explore the issue for $2000!
#107 of 129 re: OIL CONSUMPTION AND MULITPLE OTHER HUGE PROBLEMS [3timesahonda]
May 10, 2012 (2:20 am)
What year, how many miles, how bad is the problem? Is it still under warranty?
LOL, I just purchased a Toyota Sienna in part to avoid VCM engines. They must have heard about Honda's problems because the 2012 owner's manual says up to 1.1 qts per 600 miles is within "normal" consumption.
Not in my experience.
#108 of 129 re: OIL CONSUMPTION AND MULITPLE OTHER HUGE PROBLEMS [3timesahonda]
May 14, 2012 (3:56 pm)
I did receive a recall on the Honda Mini van. Fat lot of good it did, I traded that junker back to the dealer. I lost thousands of dollars on that mini van, at a time when I could least afford to lose any money. I am not done with Honda yet and all the money I lost. I can't even begin to explain the stress it caused me. Here I had a brand new truck 22,000 miles and the engine was going and Honda refused to fix it, I'll include my dealer also.
I guess the old saying the rich get richer and the poor get poorer knew what they were talking about.
The average person can not afford to hire lawyers to fight their battles, even when they are in the right. I should have taken it to my state Attorney General, the state of Minnesota happens to have a very good one. I may do that yet, as soon as I get the time to deal with it.
Is anyone out there working harder than ever and way more hours and way less money. It is companies like Honda who take advantage of the little guys.
I wish I could get over the abuse this company has put me through, but I must be stupid in thinking there will be justice when a huge company like Honda sells their mistakes and refuses to make it right. I know I'm not the only Honda owner who has been cheated with their product.
I can only hope they confess and right the wrongs done to so many Honda owners.