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#75 of 129 Odyssey just died due to NO OIL at 17,000 miles!
Apr 18, 2011 (12:46 am)
Hello! I am new to this forum, but sooo glad I found itl! I am typically not someone who ever posts, but let me just say, I felt like I HAD TO! This is my story. Bought a 2010 Odyssey and have looooved it. Until now. 2weeks ago, my van choked in the parking lot and my oil and engine lights came on. I decided I better get it in immediately. It restarted and seemed ok, but about a 1/4 mile around the corner,my engine COMPLETELY seized and the van died. Thank GOD I was not on the interstate as I normally am at that time, but instead had treated my 3 kids to a treat after school, so was on a much smaller road. Again, the only warning I had was immediately before the van's death. The indicator was also blinking -999 at that time as well. The tow truck driver checked and stated it had no oil. I was shocked, had it towed to the nearest Honda dealer. It has been a fiasco ever since. The minute my van rolled in there the service advisor me who did my oil change and as soon as I told him Firestone, he had a VERY "hands off" attitude. He proceded to tell me that in his 7yrs of experience he has NEVER seen such a thing and began to quote to me the owner manual about as the responsible owner and driver I should be checking my oil every gas fill-up.. who does that anymore????? He then proceeded to tell me that if it was an oil chang issue, my warranty would not cover a new engine because it hadn't been serviced by Honda. He called me 3 days later with the diagnosis of engine failure due to less than 1 qt of oil in the engine. That was it. I had to ask him about the drip pan cap, loose oil filter.. he then stated all was normal and it was not going to be covered under my warranty. He, again, quoted the checking my oil thing with each gas fillup. He was sooo rude it was unbelievable . Zero customer care , zero compassion for the loss of my engine on a 17,000 mile basically brand new van! I have only made 27 payments on it!! I then spoke to Firestone about the possibiltiy of a faulty oil change, not enough oil put back in, yadayada.. they sent out a 3rd party unbiased mechanic who said the same... nothing looked faulty. Ok, so where in the world did my oil go??? It had been 6months/8000 miles between oil changes and that is with using FULL SYNTHETIC. I have been told by many people this is completely acceptable and that the engine would just circulate DIRTY oil, not BURN it! My next call was to Honda North America. I am in the process of working with a claims rep now and boy is there ALOT of red tape. It has been over 2 weeks now and my van still sits on the Honda dealer 's lift waiting. But even my Honda NA claim person is saying we are just hopeful for a "good will" at this point and for Honda to cover it. She also told me that IF INDEED it burned a qt of oil every 1000 miles, that is still considered within normal parameters!!!!! What?????!!! Yeah , maybe back in the 70's, but not in this day and age and certainly not for a $28,ooo vehicle!!!!! Again, like everyone else has said, she and the dealer both say they are unaware of any oil consumption/burning issues. How is that possible??? I am extremely UNHAPPY and appalled at how Honda has handled this....denying my warranty because they can't prove that Firestone DID INDEED put the proper amt of oil back in. Everything is still under investigation so to say with mine, but heck, I can't do an oil consumption test on mine cuz it is dead!!!! I am just so shocked and outraged. I feel like I have been screwed by Honda, and this makes me so irate, because I waited forever for this van to arrive!!! I will tackle the issue with poor customer service with the owner of that particular dealership, but for now, I just want my engine ordered so we can get it back!!!! This is completely unnacceptable!!!!!
#76 of 129 Re: Software upgrade [drivenavan]
May 08, 2011 (12:28 pm)
Did not work. I wish Honda would just make the engine a true 6 cylinder and not to worry about the three cutting out. I did not buy the van because of the gas mileage, I bought it for the reputation and quality. So far I appear to be wrong.
#77 of 129 Re: Odyssey just died due to NO OIL at 17,000 miles! [shutterbug5]
May 08, 2011 (1:22 pm)
It is very difficult to expect Honda to replace your engine when you bring it in seized up with 1 quart in the system. I could see some tech getting distracted and failing to fill the thing back up with oil. This won't make you feel any better, but if anyone besides me works on one of my cars, I always check their work. Lessons learned...
The only thing I can come up with to possibly help you is to find out what oil your Firestone store uses (most use Kendall brand semi-syn for bulk oil). Then, if you can get your Honda dealer to capture some of the remaining oil and send it to the manufacturer of Firestone's supply (Kendall is made by ConocoPhillips) for analysis to see if they can determine if it's their oil. If it isn't, then Firestone is guilty. If it is their oil and all of F's paperwork confirms that they filled it and their tech signs an affidavit to that effect, I'd turn to Honda. You're probably going to need a lawyer to get satisfaction and by then, you'll spend much more than a rebuilt engine. Tough spot for you but, well, now you will always check the oil.
#78 of 129 Re: Software upgrade [drivenavan]
May 08, 2011 (1:20 pm)
One would think that Honda could create a software download that would disable VCM for those customers who so desire.
#79 of 129 my 06 ody is having the same issue
May 25, 2011 (4:53 pm)
Looks like I'm joining the club. We bought our 06 Ody Touring used from carmax and have loved it up until a month ago. We were changing the oil every 5000 miles and never had any issues the first few services. One day the VSA light turned on and the van stalled out on the freeway. We pulled off the road and turned the ignition off. It started right back up. This happened a few more times so we took it in to the dealer. The dealer told us it was low on oil which was strange because it only had 2000 miles since it was serviced! They changed the oil and said to bring it back in 1000 miles. I made it a point to talk to the service manager and he was clueless. He called the tech and they said there was no problem, just low on oil. It has been less than 1 month (and less than 1000 miles) and it is showing 30% oil life. I scheduled another checkup with the dealer tomorrow- I will let you know what the story is next. Has anyone talked to a lawyer about a class action lawsuit? Honda sells millions of these engines world wide- I would think this is a major issue.
#80 of 129 Re: Software upgrade [drivenavan]
May 27, 2011 (7:30 am)
Am reading your posts while sitting at a Honda dealer for warranty service on my 2010 Honda Odyssey. At 7,000 miles, 14,000 miles, and now at 21,000 miles, it just chokes and dies. Today I was able to limp into the dealership. What is probably occuring with your car is the same thing as with mine: The Variable Cylinder Management system is a lemon. The three cyclinders that get turned off aren't handled properly by the computer, oil starts disappearing (not leaking, it's just gone) and you will lose about a quart of oil every 1,000 miles. There will be no sign that anything is wrong until the car starts choking and the engine light comes on. The spark plugs become fouled, and the engine misfires. At 7,000 miles, the other Honda dealership told me that Honda was, "studying the problem". After the second time at about 14,000 miles, they finally came up with a programming upgrade to fix the issue. Later, at an oil change, they did ANOTHER programming upgrade to REALLY fix the issue. Yet, at 21,000 miles, just like clockwork, here I sit in a Honda dealership. Waiting for them to again lie to me about how they have it REALLY REALLY fixed now.
For $38,000 you want a car that at least runs, not is GUARANTEED to die every 7,000 miles. Oh, and they will do the oil consumption test and tell you that as long as it is using not more than one quart of oil every 1,000 miles, that that is acceptable. The hell it is. My wife's dream car has become a nightmare and she'd rather trade it in for a Ford Escort or some gas guzzler than keep it.
Therefore, I have renamed our Honda Odyssey. It's new name: THE "2010 HONDA POLISHED-TURD". It looks all spiffy and shiny, but it's really just a piece of (excrement).
Tell your family, tell your friends, don't buy Honda. Heck, a Toyota may not stop, but at least it will GO!
#81 of 129 Re: Software upgrade [gmajerczyk]
May 27, 2011 (5:24 pm)
I do not know if it helps, I have been telling everyone I know, I have contacted Consumer Reports and told them what is going on and recommended they need to remove it from there " recommend list". They responded with they will look into it. I am sure if more people complain it may help. If anyone else has any ideas I all ears.
#82 of 129 Re: 2008 Honda Odyssey Excessive Oil Comsumptions [08odysseyms]
Jun 06, 2011 (9:22 am)
My 2009 Odyssey EX-L has the same problem. Did you get resolution? What do you recommend for me? Do the 2011 Odyssey's (with the new "new plateau honing technique for the cylinder bores""low-tension piston ring design" and molybdenum--coated piston skirts) have the same problem?
#83 of 129 Re: 2008 Honda Odyssey Excessive Oil Comsumptions [dinog]
Jun 06, 2011 (11:00 am)
Honda handled the situation in a way that infuriorated me , I'll never buy another Honda ever again. I was the first case of my brand new exl burning oil .
Honda would not return my calls , district rep or American Honda. A Toyota is now in our driveway.
#84 of 129 ODYSSEY 2006 oil consumption
Jul 03, 2011 (4:16 pm)
I have a Odyssey 2006. around 35,000 miles the motor started to act up so I drove to the dealer and they informed me I was low on oil. I said how could that be I just had an oil change 3000 miles ago. Are you telling me the my van with only 35,000 miles is burning oil? Needless to say I have been trying ever since to get them to fix the problem but the dealership will not act (even if you have an extended warranty) until the oil consumption reaches over 1 qt per 1000 miles. Imagine that !! I did find out one thing apparently cylinder # 3 seems the be the problem cylinder. The Honda dealership identified the spark plug for that cylinder to be fouled and replaced it. (THEY KNOW and that whats so annoying.) It sounds as though in reading some of the posted messages that this is a common problem one which Honda is not willing to recognize. I am interested if any one has been successful in getting Honda to fix the problem and if so can you point me in the right direction??