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What Does Subaru Know That Others Don't?

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#535 of 610 Re: Sarcasm on... [fintail] by ateixeira

Dec 02, 2011 (1:48 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Dec 01, 2011 3:40 pm)
What Toyota DNA?
 
OK, they added DI tech (to a boxer), but it's even being made in Gunma Prefecture. Subaru said the Toyota staff were invited to attend some meetings only when they were needed.
 
This is a Subaru at the core.
 
And you guys are right, the controversy is the lack of AWD, not styling related.
 
Look at it this way - what does it have in common with ANY other Toyota? Nothing.

#536 of 610 Re: Sarcasm on... [explorerx4] by ateixeira

Dec 02, 2011 (1:53 pm)

Replying to: explorerx4 (Dec 01, 2011 5:05 pm)
I think the Hyundai Genesis Coupe is probably closer, but I'm sure it will get cross-shopped with the Mustang, Camaro, Challenger, 370Z, and maybe even G37c and 1 series.
 
Heck, plus Miata, while I'm at it. I own a Miata and without a doubt that would have been cross-shopped had it been available.
 
If it really does come in at $24k, it'll be a hit. That may be too cheap, and result in markups.
 
TRD will supposedly offer a supercharges, but at 26xx lbs it shouldn't really need one. I think we're all used to bloated 3000+ lbs vehicles even when we're talking about compacts.

#537 of 610 Re: Sarcasm on... [ateixeira] by fintail

Dec 02, 2011 (2:59 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 02, 2011 1:48 pm)
The styling is more Toyota to my eyes, and the body of the car is what makes the impression. I can't believe Toyota had more or less zero input - but claiming so certainly couldn't help sales or image.

#538 of 610 Re: Sarcasm on... [ateixeira] by fintail

Dec 02, 2011 (3:03 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 02, 2011 1:53 pm)
Big boats like the Challenger, V6 and V8 cars, prestige brands that cost 50% more? Nah, I don't know about that one. Maybe the prestige brands when they are about 3 years old. Miata though, I can believe, Scion tC for sure. Maybe even some sedans bought by people who want something like the Breeze but can't get it.

#539 of 610 Subaru now knows... good brakes are important! by backy

Dec 02, 2011 (9:17 pm)

http://www.insideline.com/subaru/impreza/2012/2012-subaru-impreza-legacy-outback- -recalled-for-faulty-brake-pedal.html
 
That will slow down Subaru sales a tad... including the new Impreza. At least they caught it early on the Impreza, before many cars hit the roads.

#540 of 610 Re: Sarcasm on... [fintail] by ateixeira

Dec 06, 2011 (11:14 am)

Replying to: fintail (Dec 02, 2011 2:59 pm)
Indeed, Subaru engineered all the hard points, Toyota basically designed a body around that.
 
I guess we're using the term DNA differently. DNA to me are the insides, which are pure Subaru.
 
Toyota just did the surface.
 
I hear Navi may be included at the $24k price. Get ready for markups.

#541 of 610 Re: Subaru now knows... good brakes are important! [backy] by ateixeira

Dec 06, 2011 (11:15 am)

Replying to: backy (Dec 02, 2011 9:17 pm)
Just when they got the Gunma factory chugging along...not good.

#542 of 610 Re: Sarcasm on... [ateixeira] by fintail

Dec 06, 2011 (11:46 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 06, 2011 11:14 am)
There will have to be severe supply limits to get away with the ADM game, however...the economy isn't quite that strong in many areas, and younger buyers often have less money than they have in a long time. This thing won't sell to many boomers.
 
I do like how Toyota had to hit up someone else to make a cool car. I also like the "Boxer" emblem I have seen pics of, it made me think of an "SS" symbol, and I don't mean the one on a Chevy. Funny.

#543 of 610 Re: Sarcasm on... [fintail] by ateixeira

Dec 06, 2011 (11:55 am)

Replying to: fintail (Dec 06, 2011 11:46 am)
For the BRZ the sales forecast is unusually low, IIRC 5-7k units annually. I think that estimate is nuts.
 
Guess it depends on how many Toyota will get, will the US allocation be split 50/50 or what? Maybe 60/40 in favor of the one with bigger pockets?
 
I like the boxer emblem also, and ironically it goes on the Scion!
 
At least they did a good job with the overall shape and styling. The best part about it, despite a couple of iffy details, is that you can't say "that looks just like a ___".
 
It's inspired by the 2000GT, early Z cars, the fenders seem familiar, but it does not look like any other car on the road, and that's cool.

#544 of 610 Re: Sarcasm on... [ateixeira] by robr2

Dec 06, 2011 (11:58 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 06, 2011 11:14 am)
I guess we're using the term DNA differently. DNA to me are the insides, which are pure Subaru.
 
I'm so confused. If Subaru DNA includes AWD, where did the engineers hide the extra driveshafts??
 
 
 
Sorry, I'm just chuckling at diehard AWD Subaru fans praising love on a RWD Subaru. But I'm happy to see them accepting change.

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