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Will Green Cars Be Exciting To Drive And Enjoyable To Own?

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#998 of 1161 Re: Drill baby drill? [ateixeira] by texases

Mar 15, 2013 (11:05 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 15, 2013 9:59 am)
No 'maybe' about it, it's already happening, coupled with long term increases in US oil and gas production.
 
I question the basic assumption that eliminating gasoline is worthwhile. The only way to substitute biofuels is through massive increases in farming, and we've already seen the ecological disaster that is ethanol and biodiesel from the tropics.
 
Be careful what you wish for...

#999 of 1161 Re: Drill baby drill? [texases] by gagrice

Mar 15, 2013 (11:13 am)

Replying to: texases (Mar 15, 2013 11:05 am)
The only way to substitute biofuels is through massive increases in farming, and we've already seen the ecological disaster that is ethanol and biodiesel from the tropics.
  
Be careful what you wish for...
 
It would seem to me the only logical source of biofuel is Algae. It can be grown where nothing else can. The per acre production is 100s of times for Corn ethanol. And Very little of the green agenda cash is being spent on R&D for biodiesel. Too many eco nuts think they can overcome the laws of physics.

#1000 of 1161 downsizing revs by steve_ HOST

Mar 18, 2013 (3:59 pm)

"I can see the day when the 3 and 4 Series will be powered by three-cylinder engines with electric boosting for low revs.
 
"The combination will be exciting with the low-speed torque of electric power and then that is taken over by the high-end performance with gas engines. It's exciting for us."
 
BMW Plans More Plug-In Hybrids, Gas Engine Overhaul
 

#1001 of 1161 Re: downsizing revs [steve_] by ateixeira

Mar 18, 2013 (4:55 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Mar 18, 2013 3:59 pm)
Tiny, low revving engines don't sound like a recipe for fun. You have to wonder if BMW is getting too far ahead of themselves. That would make a Prius look like a sports car.

#1002 of 1161 Re: downsizing revs [ateixeira] by gagrice

Mar 18, 2013 (5:51 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 18, 2013 4:55 pm)
BMW has to do something. They don't have enough cars that get great mileage to compensate for the gas hogs they like to sell. I wonder with the mileage mandate, do you have to sell any or just offer them to get the credit?

#1003 of 1161 Re: downsizing revs [gagrice] by ateixeira

Mar 18, 2013 (5:53 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Mar 18, 2013 5:51 pm)
CAFE is a sales weighted average, so they have to sell.

#1004 of 1161 Re: downsizing revs [ateixeira] by gagrice

Mar 18, 2013 (6:00 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 18, 2013 5:53 pm)
I guess it becomes a financial decision. Do you sell the high mileage cars at a loss to keep from paying the fines?

#1005 of 1161 Re: downsizing revs [gagrice] by texases

Mar 18, 2013 (6:13 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Mar 18, 2013 6:00 pm)
"Do you sell the high mileage cars at a loss to keep from paying the fines? "
 
They do that now, Ford was rumored to be losing money on each Focus to meet CAFE. Welcome to the party, BMW!

#1006 of 1161 Re: downsizing revs [texases] by ateixeira

Mar 19, 2013 (10:32 am)

Replying to: texases (Mar 18, 2013 6:13 pm)
It will be tougher for the lux brands than it is for, say, Kia or Mazda. Those already sell a lot of compact cars, and at a price where the customer doesn't expect tons of performance.
 
I wonder if BMW wouldn't be better off putting the i cars under the MINI brand?

#1007 of 1161 Tesla turns a profit by ateixeira

Apr 01, 2013 (1:47 pm)

Tesla says it turned profitable as Model S sales beat forecast
  
Shares rise 16% for the day, reach record high
 
Read more: http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130401/OEM05/130409997/tesl- a-says-it-turned-profitable-as-model-s-sales-beat-forecast&cciid=email-autonews-- daily#ixzz2PFMQZtpB

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