Will Green Cars Be Exciting To Drive And Enjoyable To Own?

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#995 of 1229 Drill baby drill? by ateixeira

Mar 15, 2013 (9:04 am)

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2013/03/15/obama-to-announce-2-- billion-plan-to-get-u-s-cars-off-gasoline/
 
call for $2-billion energy security trust fund dedicated to research to boost automobile efficiency, enhance battery technology and expand the use of biofuels, among other clean-energy efforts. The ultimate goal: getting the country off oil

#996 of 1229 Re: Drill baby drill? [ateixeira] by steve_ HOST

Mar 15, 2013 (9:33 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 15, 2013 9:04 am)
Trying to make Bartlesville a ghost town?

#997 of 1229 Re: Drill baby drill? [steve_] by ateixeira

Mar 15, 2013 (9:59 am)

Replying to: steve_ (Mar 15, 2013 9:33 am)
I doubt that'll happen, but at least they can offset an increase in energy demands. Maybe.

#998 of 1229 Re: Drill baby drill? [ateixeira] by texases

Mar 15, 2013 (11:05 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 15, 2013 9:59 am)
No 'maybe' about it, it's already happening, coupled with long term increases in US oil and gas production.
 
I question the basic assumption that eliminating gasoline is worthwhile. The only way to substitute biofuels is through massive increases in farming, and we've already seen the ecological disaster that is ethanol and biodiesel from the tropics.
 
Be careful what you wish for...

#999 of 1229 Re: Drill baby drill? [texases] by gagrice

Mar 15, 2013 (11:13 am)

Replying to: texases (Mar 15, 2013 11:05 am)
The only way to substitute biofuels is through massive increases in farming, and we've already seen the ecological disaster that is ethanol and biodiesel from the tropics.
  
Be careful what you wish for...

 
It would seem to me the only logical source of biofuel is Algae. It can be grown where nothing else can. The per acre production is 100s of times for Corn ethanol. And Very little of the green agenda cash is being spent on R&D for biodiesel. Too many eco nuts think they can overcome the laws of physics.

#1000 of 1229 downsizing revs by steve_ HOST

Mar 18, 2013 (3:59 pm)

"I can see the day when the 3 and 4 Series will be powered by three-cylinder engines with electric boosting for low revs.
 
"The combination will be exciting with the low-speed torque of electric power and then that is taken over by the high-end performance with gas engines. It's exciting for us."
 
BMW Plans More Plug-In Hybrids, Gas Engine Overhaul
 

#1001 of 1229 Re: downsizing revs [steve_] by ateixeira

Mar 18, 2013 (4:55 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Mar 18, 2013 3:59 pm)
Tiny, low revving engines don't sound like a recipe for fun. You have to wonder if BMW is getting too far ahead of themselves. That would make a Prius look like a sports car.

#1002 of 1229 Re: downsizing revs [ateixeira] by gagrice

Mar 18, 2013 (5:51 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 18, 2013 4:55 pm)
BMW has to do something. They don't have enough cars that get great mileage to compensate for the gas hogs they like to sell. I wonder with the mileage mandate, do you have to sell any or just offer them to get the credit?

#1003 of 1229 Re: downsizing revs [gagrice] by ateixeira

Mar 18, 2013 (5:53 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Mar 18, 2013 5:51 pm)
CAFE is a sales weighted average, so they have to sell.

#1004 of 1229 Re: downsizing revs [ateixeira] by gagrice

Mar 18, 2013 (6:00 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 18, 2013 5:53 pm)
I guess it becomes a financial decision. Do you sell the high mileage cars at a loss to keep from paying the fines?
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