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#990 of 1161 Re: Early plug-in sales actually beat early hybrid sales [ateixeira] by gagrice

Mar 14, 2013 (11:08 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 14, 2013 8:42 am)
The guy I talked to with a Leaf told me he got $5k from CA. According to the website it is now $2500 and going fast. I think it is a direct rebate and not a tax credit. Which is even more expensive.
 
http://energycenter.org/index.php/incentive-programs/clean-vehicle-rebate-projec- t

#991 of 1161 Re: cheaper, less-complicated [steve_] by texases

Mar 14, 2013 (11:30 am)

Replying to: steve_ (Mar 14, 2013 9:30 am)
There's not much difficult in building a CNG car or truck, but the fuel availability and the tank size are issues.

#992 of 1161 Re: Early plug-in sales actually beat early hybrid sales [gagrice] by ateixeira

Mar 14, 2013 (11:45 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Mar 14, 2013 11:08 am)
That's a lotta meat-a-ballsa.
 
They need to phase these out and maybe replace them with perks, so it costs less but still provides an incentive. HOV lane access (already in use in some places) and cheaper parking, perhaps.

#993 of 1161 Re: Early plug-in sales actually beat early hybrid sales [ateixeira] by gagrice

Mar 14, 2013 (12:07 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 14, 2013 11:45 am)
EVs and CNG cars get full HOV access. Plugin hybrids get limited HOV. The hybrid HOV access was phased out a couple years ago.

#994 of 1161 Re: Early plug-in sales actually beat early hybrid sales [gagrice] by ateixeira

Mar 14, 2013 (12:23 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Mar 14, 2013 12:07 pm)
I guess it becomes too much of a good thing and the lanes get crowded.
 
Around here, VA had it but I also think it was phased out.
 
There are proposals to close Beach Drive, I think it would make sense to leave it open only to HOV and greenies.

#995 of 1161 Drill baby drill? by ateixeira

Mar 15, 2013 (9:04 am)

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/2013/03/15/obama-to-announce-2-- billion-plan-to-get-u-s-cars-off-gasoline/
 
call for $2-billion energy security trust fund dedicated to research to boost automobile efficiency, enhance battery technology and expand the use of biofuels, among other clean-energy efforts. The ultimate goal: getting the country off oil

#996 of 1161 Re: Drill baby drill? [ateixeira] by steve_ HOST

Mar 15, 2013 (9:33 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 15, 2013 9:04 am)
Trying to make Bartlesville a ghost town?

#997 of 1161 Re: Drill baby drill? [steve_] by ateixeira

Mar 15, 2013 (9:59 am)

Replying to: steve_ (Mar 15, 2013 9:33 am)
I doubt that'll happen, but at least they can offset an increase in energy demands. Maybe.

#998 of 1161 Re: Drill baby drill? [ateixeira] by texases

Mar 15, 2013 (11:05 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 15, 2013 9:59 am)
No 'maybe' about it, it's already happening, coupled with long term increases in US oil and gas production.
 
I question the basic assumption that eliminating gasoline is worthwhile. The only way to substitute biofuels is through massive increases in farming, and we've already seen the ecological disaster that is ethanol and biodiesel from the tropics.
 
Be careful what you wish for...

#999 of 1161 Re: Drill baby drill? [texases] by gagrice

Mar 15, 2013 (11:13 am)

Replying to: texases (Mar 15, 2013 11:05 am)
The only way to substitute biofuels is through massive increases in farming, and we've already seen the ecological disaster that is ethanol and biodiesel from the tropics.
  
Be careful what you wish for...
 
It would seem to me the only logical source of biofuel is Algae. It can be grown where nothing else can. The per acre production is 100s of times for Corn ethanol. And Very little of the green agenda cash is being spent on R&D for biodiesel. Too many eco nuts think they can overcome the laws of physics.

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