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#970 of 1161 alignment issues by steve_ HOST

Mar 09, 2013 (10:43 am)

2013 Tesla Model S: New Touchscreen Bug Surfaces
 
I haven't checked Elon's blog to see if he's going to sue us or track the driver down to his house and repave his driveway or moan that the blog post is going to cost Tesla millions in stock loses.

#971 of 1161 Re: unplugged [gagrice] by ateixeira

Mar 09, 2013 (11:07 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Mar 09, 2013 9:34 am)
This gas station a mile away has CNG. All the ones that fill propane tanks, basically. And it was $22 for a tank, not bad.
 
I would have an issue at my beach property. No underground lines there, so I would have to find a refill station there.
 
So you still have range anxiety, but it works well for fleets that take the same routes every day.
 
Swapping a cylinder should not be too hard, and the metal can be recycled.

#972 of 1161 Re: unstable [gagrice] by ateixeira

Mar 09, 2013 (11:14 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Mar 09, 2013 9:55 am)
It is perfectly competent, but exciting? That may be overstating it a bit.
 
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2010-audi-a3-tdi-instrumented-test
 
0-60 in 8.5 seconds lags well behind my minivan. $37 grand plus, too. The Civic CNG with Navi is $10k less, 13k if you add the $3000 credit for fuel.
 
32 mpg observed is good in the hands of lead foots, I guess.
 
Civic was even slower:
 
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2012-honda-civic-natural-gas-test-review
 
2013 model got much needed upgrades.
 
The new A3 should be lighter and hopefully gets a boost in power as well.

#973 of 1161 Re: unplugged [ateixeira] by gagrice

Mar 09, 2013 (1:56 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 09, 2013 11:07 am)
CNG and Propane are not related. Other than they can both be used as fuel. The pressure involved with CNG is much higher and more hazardous. That is why tank certification is required by law every 3 years.
 
We used to have 2 CNG places in my area. They both quit selling. Only private sources now. We have propane sales at almost all gas stations around here. Lots of people set up PU trucks to use Propane and regular gas. Not at all like a CNG or LNG conversion.

#974 of 1161 Re: unplugged [gagrice] by steve_ HOST

Mar 09, 2013 (2:01 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Mar 09, 2013 1:56 pm)
Propane around here is expensive - more so that natural gas for sure.

#975 of 1161 Re: unplugged [gagrice] by ateixeira

Mar 09, 2013 (3:06 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Mar 09, 2013 1:56 pm)
I would want a Phil station or whatever they call those.
 
Would be nice to never visit a gas station with that vehicle...ever.

#976 of 1161 Re: unplugged [ateixeira] by gagrice

Mar 09, 2013 (4:53 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 09, 2013 3:06 pm)
Last I read the company that makes PHIL is in bankruptcy. I am not sure I would want one in my garage. It does take several hours with one to fill the Civic tank. I think the EV charger is a safer option.

#977 of 1161 Re: unplugged [gagrice] by ateixeira

Mar 10, 2013 (7:35 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Mar 09, 2013 4:53 pm)
Yeah, lots of pressure, but I'm sure there are safety measures built-in.
 
There are 2 EV stations in my garage, and I also saw one at the Marriott last night where we had dinner. They are becoming common, at least here in the DC area.

#978 of 1161 Fisker quits Fisker by ateixeira

Mar 13, 2013 (11:18 am)

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1082882_breaking-co-founder-henrik-fisker-le- aves-fisker-automotive-struggling-electric-car-firm

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