Will Green Cars Be Exciting To Drive And Enjoyable To Own?

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#950 of 1161 Re: Fun until your Li-ion battery fails [texases] by gagrice

Mar 08, 2013 (11:54 am)

Replying to: texases (Mar 08, 2013 10:04 am)
About 80% of Chinese power is from coal, going nowhere but up
 
Of course, US and Australia sell them our coal dirt cheap. They build one new power plant per week powered by coal. We have idiots for legislators, that think they can push the pollution elsewhere and live in a pristine environment. Meanwhile sending all the jobs to China along with the coal.

#951 of 1161 Re: This guy got a little carried away... [gagrice] by ateixeira

Mar 08, 2013 (11:58 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Mar 08, 2013 11:48 am)
That's all they eat.
 
If we could only harness all that methane gas....

#952 of 1161 Re: Fun until your Li-ion battery fails [texases] by gagrice

Mar 08, 2013 (12:01 pm)

Replying to: texases (Mar 08, 2013 8:58 am)
Speaking of incentives, Chinese carmakers are asking for more to support EV/HEV/ETC sales
 
Something to think about. If the Chinese control 95% of the natural resources needed to make EVs and hybrids, and still need subsidies to be profitable, how will we ever manufacture sustainable EVs? Buying from China is not a good option.

#953 of 1161 Relatively Green by ateixeira

Mar 08, 2013 (12:03 pm)

US Army's FED on Jay Leno's garage
 
http://youtu.be/23x5ifyxxwI

#954 of 1161 Re: Relatively Green [ateixeira] by gagrice

Mar 08, 2013 (12:29 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 08, 2013 12:03 pm)
One of the few vehicles I would venture into Los Angeles at night in. Be fun to go out crushin' Corollas in.

#955 of 1161 Re: Relatively Green [gagrice] by ateixeira

Mar 08, 2013 (1:14 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Mar 08, 2013 12:29 pm)
Bet it could run on fry grease! Smells like french fries.

#956 of 1161 unplugged by steve_ HOST

Mar 08, 2013 (5:08 pm)

"Carmakers are going back to the drawing board in the hunt for fuel-saving technologies as hopes that electric vehicles will be the silver bullet for CO2 emissions look increasingly forlorn.
 
There is a growing awareness that conventional hybrids and slow-selling battery cars simply won't be enough to meet rigid EU emissions limits."
 
Carmakers think outside the box as electric dreams shatter (Reuters)

#957 of 1161 Re: unplugged [steve_] by gagrice

Mar 08, 2013 (5:32 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Mar 08, 2013 5:08 pm)
Just what I have said since the industry settled on Lithium batteries. They have too many problems and too little gain over NiMH, which are too heavy to be practical. My guess is Nissan will end their Leaf program to coincide with the end of the Tax Credit welfare to the rich.
 
If the automakers want to meet the goals, smaller diesel engines designed to run on any mixture of Biodiesel. Commercial truck stop near me has B99 and B20. That solves the CO2, CO and SoX emission levels for the future goals. Biodiesel the REAL sustainable alternative energy source, without all the environmental hazards from EV type vehicles.

#958 of 1161 Re: unplugged [steve_] by ateixeira

Mar 09, 2013 (6:59 am)

Replying to: steve_ (Mar 08, 2013 5:08 pm)
Nissan may have shot themselves in the foot with a 38mpg Altima. That's going to grab more headlines than the Leaf ever will.
 
CR got a real-world 31 mpg average, too.
 
And it is a big, comfortable car, not an econobox.

#959 of 1161 Re: unplugged [ateixeira] by steve_ HOST

Mar 09, 2013 (7:48 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Mar 09, 2013 6:59 am)
There's a lot of life left in ICE.
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