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#814 of 1232 Re: maybe next time leave a bigger gap between the cars too [steve_] by gagrice

Nov 06, 2012 (10:25 pm)

Replying to: Stever@Edmunds (Nov 06, 2012 7:31 pm)
And if you believe that BS I got a bridge for sale. That is all Damage control for the EV agenda. Cars we paid to have built in a foreign country. I guess we are stuck with 4 more years of lies and deception on the Green Agenda.

#815 of 1232 Re: maybe next time leave a bigger gap between the cars too [gagrice] by ateixeira

Nov 07, 2012 (10:59 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Nov 06, 2012 10:25 pm)
They very carefully worded their statement to imply the standard 12v battery started the fire, but if that were the case all flooded cars would have gone up in flames.
 
The battery pack stores a LOT more energy than a regular 12v pack and relies on liquid cooling and all sorts of sophisticated engineering to cool itself.
 
Not that cars must be built to withstand floods, but the statement is extremely misleading.

#816 of 1232 Re: maybe next time leave a bigger gap between the cars too [ateixeira] by gagrice

Nov 07, 2012 (2:26 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 07, 2012 10:59 am)
I don't think a 12V lead acid battery would get that hot with salt water covering it. It would dissipate its charge. I wonder how big the 12volt battery is. In the Prius it is a little thing to keep the computers going. I noticed the careful wording as well.

#817 of 1232 Re: maybe next time leave a bigger gap between the cars too [ateixeira] by gagrice

Nov 07, 2012 (2:31 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 07, 2012 10:59 am)
I did not realize they lost 300 of the Fisker plug-in Hybrids.
 
The Fisker is not new to fires.
 
The company previously had incidents of cars catching fire, one in California related to a cooling fan, and one in Texas for which the cause is still being determined, the company said.
 
http://blogs.wsj.com/drivers-seat/2012/11/06/sandy-swamped-shipment-of-more-than- -300-fisker-cars/

#818 of 1232 Re: maybe next time leave a bigger gap between the cars too [gagrice] by ateixeira

Nov 07, 2012 (2:44 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Nov 07, 2012 2:31 pm)
It was news to me also. Here:
 
http://green.autoblog.com/2012/11/07/fisker-loses-over-300-karmas-in-sandy-flood- s-at-port-newark/
 
Those didn't catch fire, though. Maybe the 12v battery was dead!

#819 of 1232 More cars damaged from Sandy by ateixeira

Nov 07, 2012 (2:49 pm)

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/11/07/hurricane-sandy-cost-automakers-15-000-vehicl- es-may-have-ruined/
 
15,000 unsold vehicles, but NADA is saying it could have destroyed 200,000 personal vehicles! Yikes.
 
Hopefully with good insurance.

#820 of 1232 Can't find gas? No problem... by ateixeira

Nov 08, 2012 (2:13 pm)

EV owners are able to charge during the gas shortage:
 
http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/02/electric-car-owners-unfazed-by-storm/-

#821 of 1232 Nissan misses sales target on EV by gagrice

Nov 15, 2012 (8:54 pm)

Are EV sales Dead???
 
Nissan Motor CEO Carlos Ghosn finally admitted the automaker will not meet its sales target for its all-electric Leaf — in another sign of the broad struggle of the electric vehicle industry.
 
"The forecast we have given ourselves for the year will not be reached," Ghosn told Bloomberg Television in Mexico City on Thursday.
 
Despite months of lagging sales, the Japanese automaker has steadfastly refused to acknowledge that it could not double sales in 2012 to 20,000 after selling nearly 10,000 in 2011.
 
In October, the Leaf also had its best month all year, selling 1,579, up 86 percent from a year ago. For the year, Nissan has sold 6,791 Leafs, down 15.6 percent from this time a year ago.
 
Nissan sold 9,679 all-electric Leafs in 2011.
 
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20121115/AUTO0104/211150461/1361/Nissan-CEO-a- bandons--12-electric-vehicle-sales-target

#822 of 1232 Re: Nissan misses sales target on EV [gagrice] by ateixeira

Nov 16, 2012 (2:20 pm)

Replying to: gagrice (Nov 15, 2012 8:54 pm)
Volt sales just hit an all time high, new record last month: 2961.

#823 of 1232 Re: Nissan misses sales target on EV [ateixeira] by gagrice

Nov 16, 2012 (8:31 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 16, 2012 2:20 pm)
They are selling at invoice to unload the 2012 models sitting on the showrooms. CA has given them the HOV sticker as well.

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