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Will Green Cars Be Exciting To Drive And Enjoyable To Own?

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Hybrids are hot! by mattandi
Mar 25, 2009 (3:53 pm)
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So, I am borrowing my Dad's Prius. We might by one, might not. No, it ain't the most exciting thing to drive.
 
Anyway, I went to pick up my daughter from school. A charter elementary that does not provide transportation. Parents proceed through a kiss-n-go line before and after school to drop off and retrieve their little angels. Usually the teachers in the afternoon have the kids waiting for the cars as they pull up, but of course this afternoon no one recognizes the car I am driving. They recognize me and get my daughter up to get in the car. It only takes a few extra seconds, but in that time 2 teachers walk over to the car to look. I hear one of them say "That's a Prius, one of those hybrids." Now I love my wife and all, so don't think too ill of me, but this teacher is cute. She leans over and asks me "Did you just buy this?" I explain no, just borrowing it. She says, "Well, it's a cool car to borrow. I've always wanted to drive one."
 
I felt like I was 16 again. Good looking girls looking at my car. Talking to me. Telling me my car is cool. Suggesting a ride.
 
That was enjoyable.
 
Then my daughter asked for a drink.
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Re: Hybrids are hot! [mattandi] by lilengineerboy
Mar 26, 2009 (4:01 am)
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Replying to: mattandi (Mar 25, 2009 3:53 pm)

I've always wanted to drive one.
 
Yup, and then she wont feel so excited about it.
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Re: Hybrids are hot & noisy! [lilengineerboy] by gagrice
Mar 26, 2009 (4:17 am)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Mar 26, 2009 4:01 am)

Aside from the poor handling, the Prius is NOISY. I jumped out of my Sequoia and into my buddies 2009 Prius to go to lunch. I expected a quiet smooth ride. Anything but that. Way too much road noise. Only slightly better than a Yaris. Plus it was rough riding on our 3rd world streets in So California. I don't need a yuppie chick magnet. Been there and done that. The Jetta TDI is a better way to get 45 MPG. Plus a LOT more fun to drive.
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Re: Hybrids are hot! [lilengineerboy] by mattandi
Mar 26, 2009 (5:41 am)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Mar 26, 2009 4:01 am)

Yup, and then she wont feel so excited about it
 
lol, most likely.
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Re: Hybrids are hot & noisy! [gagrice] by mattandi
Mar 26, 2009 (5:49 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Mar 26, 2009 4:17 am)

The Prius is very utilitarian and spartan. Not a very comfortable car, and it is noisy. The rear visibility sucks. I keep expecting more "zip" and am repeatedly disappointed.
 
For what it does I suppose the Prius is not horrible. I kinda look at it as proof of concept.
 
lol at yuppie chick magnet. I don't need one either. It was just a funny moment.
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Re: Hybrids are hot & noisy! [gagrice] by larsb
Mar 26, 2009 (6:07 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Mar 26, 2009 4:17 am)

No they are not. I ride in a Prius all the time, one of my co-workers has one, and it's nearly just as quiet as my Camry.
 
What "noise" did you think you heard?
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Re: Hybrids are hot & noisy! [larsb] by gagrice
Mar 26, 2009 (6:14 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Mar 26, 2009 6:07 am)

What "noise" did you think you heard?
 
If your Camry is as noisy as a Prius, Toyota needs to head back to the drawing board. Every little joint in the pavement gets radiated into the passenger compartment. I personally thought the first Prius I rode in was much quieter. Then that was about 9 years ago and I went from a 1990 Camry to the Prius. Plus our roads have gone down hill since then with little to no maintenance.
 
Would I drive one running errands? Why not, they have a nice big hatch area to put stuff. Would I head out to the desert or over to Phoenix? Not in a million years. Your blindness to the facts on these attempts at being green is showing.
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Re: Hybrids are hot & noisy! [gagrice] by larsb
Mar 26, 2009 (6:44 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Mar 26, 2009 6:14 am)

You really ought not to be telling people the Prius is noisy.
 
It's just not.
 
From various sources on the web:
 
In general, most family sedans, minivans, and midsized and large SUVs have very good noise isolation, including CR Top Picks like the Honda Accord, Acura TL, Infiniti M35, Honda Odyssey, Honda Ridgeline, Toyota Highlander Hybrid and Toyota Prius. Smaller vehicles, such as the Honda Civic and Subaru Forester (also Top Picks), score a step below for noise isolation. The noisiest cars we’ve recently tested include the Lotus Elise and Pontiac Solstice. These two sporty cars rated Poor for noise isolation and were even noisy enough to make listening to the radio a challenge.
 
And from an Edmunds review:
 
Once under way, though, the Prius rides tranquilly, with a pillow-soft suspension and good sound insulation.

 
And:
 
Ride quality is generally very good, most bumps and ripples not coming through to the cabin.
 
And:
 
Toyota Prius
Besides the superb gas mileage, the Toyota Prius is a quiet vehicle. It starts on its electric motor so there is no churn of a starter motor or engine revving noise. In addition, the aerodynamic car produces little wind and road noise.

 
Maybe the one road you took a Prius ride on was a bad one.
 
But no one anywhere in any review calls the Prius "noisy."
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by mattandi
Mar 26, 2009 (7:22 am)
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hmmmm, touched a nerve.
 
It's relative. That's all.
 
Gary compared the Prius to his Sequoia. Found it noisy.
 
I own a Saturn wagon. Not exactly a quiet car, and a car do not like very much. I found the Prius more noisy, especially on the highway.
 
Others may have a different experience.
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Re: [mattandi] by gagrice
Mar 26, 2009 (7:44 am)
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Replying to: mattandi (Mar 26, 2009 7:22 am)

Gary compared the Prius to his Sequoia. Found it noisy.
 
Our friend went from a noisy GM PU truck to a noisy Civic to a noisy Camry. So it is relative to what you are used to. Myself I like to be able to hear the subtleties of an Itzhak Perlman piece while riding down the highway at 70 MPH. I like to be isolated from all the noise while in the city as well. While the Sequoia is not perfect, it is better than my Suburban and most other SUVs including my tax man's RX. Part of it are the crappy low profile tires that have become so popular. Give me quiet balloons any day. I think that is why the X5 I demoed was not as quiet as my Sequoia.

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