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Will Green Cars Be Exciting To Drive And Enjoyable To Own?

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Re: Will Green Cars Be Exciting To Drive And Enjoyable To Own? [gagrice] by lemko
Jan 30, 2009 (7:23 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 29, 2009 10:04 pm)

I wouldn't go that far, but I will love to see the look on the eco-weenies faces when I rumble through their hermetically-sealed neighborhood in a massive 1958 Buick Limited.
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lemko... by iluvmysephia1
Jan 30, 2009 (8:09 am)
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umm...is it just me or does your above post not contradict totally the one by you just above it?
 
I am tired of being held hostage by people that don't like us and would rather screw us over by artificially inflating ghastly prices just because they can. I want off the ICE gravy-train drivetrain concept. It's just an idea and not a very viable one at that.
 
I'm talking down the road apiece. Way down dat road.
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Re: Will Green Cars Be Exciting To Drive And Enjoyable To Own? [gagrice] by fintail
Jan 30, 2009 (8:22 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 29, 2009 10:04 pm)

I just want to let off smoke like an old locomotive. Maybe give a few of the brave new worlders a massive heart attack from the mere sight of it.
 
Even now it's not exactly a low emission vehicle...and it predates any idea of smog pumps or emissions controls so it's perfectly legal...I wonder how many Prius I cancel out each time I start it up
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Re: Will Green Cars Be Exciting To Drive And Enjoyable To Own? [lemko] by fintail
Jan 30, 2009 (8:24 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jan 30, 2009 7:20 am)

They won't flatten us, they will have their own lanes, and when a globalized serf peon strays into a preferred citizen lane in his 40mph pod, a camera snaps a photo and then you go to jail. The Madoff Expressway.
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Hee-he... by iluvmysephia1
Jan 30, 2009 (8:33 am)
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fintail, you NW-stern-ers just amaze me.
 
I should've known you would side with Mad-off and feel fine about severely affecting other people's things. New ideas bounce off you like wild, errant Kobe Bryant layins at crunch time.
 
If an old person's foreign car with glazed-over, discolored, water-logged headlamp clusters is what turns you on, then you just have at them with much fervor.
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Re: Hee-he... [iluvmysephia1] by gagrice
Jan 30, 2009 (9:01 am)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Jan 30, 2009 8:33 am)

I think most of the negatives you see with regard to government mandating what we drive. Is just that, Government control. There is going to be rebellion against the elitist hypocrites that control this nation. The do as I sayers, like Teddy and Bobby Jr. Yes we want alternatives, just not in my view. The current Congress is replete with just that kind of elitism that wants to put you and I in a Yugo and then jump into their stretch limo and cruise down the interstate sipping a martini. I have always wanted to save on fossil fuel. My 52 Studebaker V8 got consistent 22 MPG back in 1962. That company just like any other back then that was innovative, was crushed by the General. I would have bought a small PU if any offered in this country would get 35-40 MPG like the rest of the world has. This latest bunch of crap from CARB and Ahnold is just so much talk and power playing.
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Re: Hee-he... [gagrice] by larsb
Jan 30, 2009 (9:24 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 30, 2009 9:01 am)

More on the 1952 Studebaker gas mileage, which was really good:
 
Gas mileage, as might be expected, was above average. In fact, in the 1951 Mobilgas Economy Run from Los Angeles to Grand Canyon, a Studebaker Champion, Commander V-8, and Land Cruiser V-8 -- all with overdrive -- finished first, second, and third in actual gas mileage to lead a field of 26 cars entered in "standard classifications."
 
In 1952, the Economy Run traveled from Los Angeles to Sun Valley, Idaho. A Champion beat out all regular-sized cars, averaging 27.82 mpg, while a Commander V-8 came in second with 25.60 mpg.

 
So if you only got 22 MPG, you musta been a leadfoot.
 
But why are you bringing up the mileage you got in a car a generation ago, Gary? Whom or what exactly are you complaining about?
 
Guvmint up to today has never mandated what we drive. Ever. No one in guvmint authoriTIE has ever said to anyone in the country, "YOU MUST BUY AND DRIVE THIS CAR."
 
They have said, "The exhaust from this vehicle is not clean enough to meet our clean air standards."
 
That's not mandating what you CAN drive. It's eliminating polluters from the road.
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Re: I agree with Fintail (boaz47) [boaz47] by nippononly
Jan 30, 2009 (10:03 am)
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Replying to: boaz47 (Jan 29, 2009 6:46 pm)

The Japanese have designed a system that allows for bland people movers with restrictions that make the consumer replace their vehicle far more often than we do already. In fact sometimes the consumer drives their old car to the recycling lot and parks it for them. Does Toyota or Honda or Suzuki care? Nope. Does it effect Japanese car sales? Nope.
 
Actually the emerging issue in the Japanese market the last 12-18 months is exactly this: Japanese car sales are in significant and continual decline, causing a great deal of concern at the tops of the Honda, Toyota, and other Japanese car companies.
 
Why the decline? They feel it is because the younger generation just now heading into their 20s and early 30s is less excited about and less interested in cars that have become blander and blander (even among the wild entries in the Japanese home market). This combined with the increased awareness of how hard on the environment cars are has led to a state where younger folks often won't go to the trouble and expense of buying one. Certainly much of the Japanese population lives in large metro areas with excellent transit systems making the purchase of a car much less pressing for a much higher percentage of their population, but still the same thing could begin to happen here.
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Re: I agree with Fintail (boaz47) [nippononly] by lemko
Jan 30, 2009 (10:07 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jan 30, 2009 10:03 am)

In places with good transit systems, you can get away without a car altogether. There are a lot of people in NYC who've never owned cars because they never needed them. However, in places like Philly with mediocre transit systems, a car is necessary. My second job requires reliable transportation - that does NOT mean SEPTA!
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Re: Hee-he... [larsb] by nippononly
Jan 30, 2009 (10:11 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 30, 2009 9:24 am)

In fact, in the 1951 Mobilgas Economy Run from Los Angeles to Grand Canyon, a Studebaker Champion, Commander V-8, and Land Cruiser V-8 -- all with overdrive -- finished first, second, and third in actual gas mileage to lead a field of 26 cars entered in "standard classifications."
 
LOL! Unlike the current Land Cruiser V-8, which wouldn't have a hope in heck of winning a competition of fuel economy, even among the worst guzzlers available new!

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