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Is a Higher Gasoline Tax Good Or Bad For America?

849 messages,  Last post on Nov 19, 2009 at 2:22 PM

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Re: Sci-Fi pays as you go [kernick] by euphonium
Jul 06, 2009 (11:19 am)
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Replying to: kernick (Jul 06, 2009 9:42 am)

A man was driving when a traffic camera flashed. He thought his picture was taken for exceeding the speed limit, even though he knew he was not speeding. Just to be sure, he went around the block and passed the same spot, driving even more slowly, but again the camera flashed. He thought this was quite funny, so he slowed down even further as he drove past the area, but the traffic camera flashed yet again. He tried a fourth time with the same result. The fifth time he was laughing when the camera flashed as he rolled past at a snail's pace.
 
Two weeks later, he got five traffic fine letters in the mail for driving without a seat belt.
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Re: Sci-Fi pays as you go [dtownfb] by steve_ HOST
Jul 06, 2009 (1:22 pm)
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Replying to: dtownfb (Jul 06, 2009 10:59 am)

The more gas you buy, the more tax you pay
 
Well, that means giving hybrid or plug-in or home-grown biofuel users a free ride for their use of the road.
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Re: Sci-Fi pays as you go [steve_] by euphonium
Jul 06, 2009 (2:58 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 06, 2009 1:22 pm)

Hybrids, Plug ins, & biofuelers can expect their annual registration notice to include a "Special Use Tax" in lieu of pay at the pump.
 
I can't imagine local Lefties driving a Pious would object to another tax as sofar they've never met a tax they didn't like.
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Re: Sci-Fi pays as you go [euphonium] by gagrice
Jul 06, 2009 (3:11 pm)
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Replying to: euphonium (Jul 06, 2009 2:58 pm)

Nebraska implemented an alternative fuel tax when the Prius became popular in 2005. The figure of $65 per year rings a bell.
 
66-685 (Operative date January 1, 2005). Purpose of act.
 
The purpose of the Alternative Fuel Tax Act is to supplement the provisions of the tax upon motor fuels by requiring any person who operates on the highways of this state a motor vehicle powered by alternative fuel to purchase an alternative fuel user permit to pay such person's estimated fuel use tax liability.

 
http://www.revenue.state.ne.us/fuels/statutes/alt_fuel_tax.htm
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Re: Sci-Fi pays as you go [gagrice] by steve_ HOST
Jul 06, 2009 (6:24 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 06, 2009 3:11 pm)

$1,000 fine if they catch a homegrown biofuel user not paying the $65 fee. I wonder how many d-i-y'selfers have paid the fee, and if any have ever been caught and fined.
 
Maybe they can just add the fee to the water bill.
 
"For ethanol from irrigated corn grown in Nebraska, travel in a car that achieves 16 mpg of ethanol represents the use of about 50 gal of water/mile driven (gwpm), the study calculates."
 
Penn Energy
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Re: Sci-Fi pays as you go [gagrice] by pafromfl
Aug 05, 2009 (9:07 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 06, 2009 3:11 pm)

Nebraska implemented an alternative fuel tax when the Prius became popular in 2005.
 
E10 is like a gasoline tax in that it reduces gas mileage by 10% in many cars, but does not cost less than pure gasoline. Because of reduced gas mileage and energy used for ethanol/corn production/distribution, E10 actually increases net oil consumption. The corn conglomerate is enriched by this tax. Now that observant consumers are exposing the scam, the Greenies should admit their mistake and shut down corn ethanol production before they lose what little is left of their credibility.
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Re: Sci-Fi pays as you go [steve_] by kernick
Aug 06, 2009 (8:46 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 06, 2009 1:22 pm)

Well, that means giving hybrid or plug-in or home-grown biofuel users a free ride for their use of the road.
 
Maybe we need to move to a system where the tax is placed on Tires instead of gas. That seems fair to me as everyone then will be taxed for using the road regardless of their energy-mode, and everyone's vehicle will then be taxed based on the factors of their weight and how much they are used, as this will affect how long their tires last.
 
So remove all road-repair taxes from gasoline and diesel, and lets just start taxing tires of all sorts!
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Re: Sci-Fi pays as you go [kernick] by steve_ HOST
Aug 06, 2009 (10:20 am)
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Replying to: kernick (Aug 06, 2009 8:46 am)

No bad, but then you'll have cheapskates like me try to fill the tires with molasses or something to keep the going longer (my daddy claimed he did that with his bicycle tires back in the Depression. My daddy lied a lot too. ).
 
Right now, tire fees in nine states are deposited into the state’s general fund instead of clean-up, which is the usual reason for collecting separate tire "taxes."
 
Tire Fees and Recycling: How Does Your State Compare? (Tire Industry Organization)
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I think Peak oil is a ways off yet by gagrice
Sep 23, 2009 (9:23 pm)
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Oil Industry Sets a Brisk Pace of New Discoveries
 
More than 200 discoveries have been reported so far this year in dozens of countries, including northern Iraq’s Kurdish region, Australia, Israel, Iran, Brazil, Norway, Ghana and Russia. They have been made by international giants, like Exxon Mobil, but also by industry minnows, like Tullow Oil.
 
Just this month, BP said that it found a giant deepwater field that might turn out to be the biggest oil discovery ever in the Gulf of Mexico, while Anadarko announced a large find in an “exciting and highly prospective” region off Sierra Leone.
 
It is normal for companies to discover billions of barrels of new oil every year, but this year’s pace is unusually brisk. New oil discoveries have totaled about 10 billion barrels in the first half of the year, according to IHS Cambridge Energy Research Associates. If discoveries continue at that pace through year-end, they are likely to reach the highest level since 2000.

 
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/24/business/energy-environment/24oil.html
 
It is reflected in the drop of oil prices today. I hope it holds out for my vacation in my Gas Guzzling Sequoia. C'mon $2 gas...

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