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Is a Higher Gasoline Tax Good Or Bad For America?

849 messages,  Last post on Nov 19, 2009 at 2:22 PM

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Re: If he was president [dave8697] by steve_ HOST
Jul 03, 2009 (5:12 pm)
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Replying to: dave8697 (Jul 03, 2009 3:21 pm)

Trump might be ok from the automakers standpoint. He's been through what, two bankruptcies already?
 
Anyone got any gas tax news?
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Re: Sci-Fi pays as you go [steve_] by xrunner2
Jul 04, 2009 (12:12 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 01, 2009 5:29 pm)

The year is 2020 and the gasoline tax is history. In its place you get a monthly tax bill based on each mile you drove — tracked by a Global Positioning System device in your car and uploaded to a billing center.
 
Would like to see Conan Obrien do his green flashlight skit on this.
 
I hope that innovators/inventors of American ingenuity are already at work with designs to foil this nonsense. Some kind of device that will prevent monitoring of one's movements on the roads/highways.
 
This present bunch of nut politicians in DC are probably very close to, if not already, trampling our Constitution and Bill of Rights with actual or pending legislation.
 
Another scheme they have in mind to violate our privacy involves a national data base of every US citizens' "health" profile in the upcoming national health care plan. Also, under alread passed (House) Cap and Trade, there is a provision to require inspection by govt authority (Feds?) before a sale of your house to assure that it meets insulation effectiveness. If it doesn't, you can't sell your house until corrections are made.
 
As has been said on this board many times before, the most sensible plan is to adjust the gas tax charged at the pump to adequately fund roads and bridges.
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Re: Sci-Fi pays as you go [xrunner2] by kernick
Jul 06, 2009 (9:42 am)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jul 04, 2009 12:12 pm)

That's why there is no such thing as a small intrusion on the freedoms and liberties that individuals of this country have. This mentality of expanding control for either the individual good or societal-good goes against everything this country was founded on. This pending legislation just snowballs.
 
I'll drive an older car, or a kit-car before I'll drive around in something that can be tracked.
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Re: Sci-Fi pays as you go [kernick] by dtownfb
Jul 06, 2009 (10:59 am)
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Replying to: kernick (Jul 06, 2009 9:42 am)

We are definitely on the same page with this issue. Just keep the system as is. The more gas you buy, the more tax you pay. don't own a car, you don't pay any gas tax. Very simple, fair system.
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Re: Sci-Fi pays as you go [kernick] by euphonium
Jul 06, 2009 (11:19 am)
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Replying to: kernick (Jul 06, 2009 9:42 am)

A man was driving when a traffic camera flashed. He thought his picture was taken for exceeding the speed limit, even though he knew he was not speeding. Just to be sure, he went around the block and passed the same spot, driving even more slowly, but again the camera flashed. He thought this was quite funny, so he slowed down even further as he drove past the area, but the traffic camera flashed yet again. He tried a fourth time with the same result. The fifth time he was laughing when the camera flashed as he rolled past at a snail's pace.
 
Two weeks later, he got five traffic fine letters in the mail for driving without a seat belt.
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Re: Sci-Fi pays as you go [dtownfb] by steve_ HOST
Jul 06, 2009 (1:22 pm)
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Replying to: dtownfb (Jul 06, 2009 10:59 am)

The more gas you buy, the more tax you pay
 
Well, that means giving hybrid or plug-in or home-grown biofuel users a free ride for their use of the road.
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Re: Sci-Fi pays as you go [steve_] by euphonium
Jul 06, 2009 (2:58 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 06, 2009 1:22 pm)

Hybrids, Plug ins, & biofuelers can expect their annual registration notice to include a "Special Use Tax" in lieu of pay at the pump.
 
I can't imagine local Lefties driving a Pious would object to another tax as sofar they've never met a tax they didn't like.
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Re: Sci-Fi pays as you go [euphonium] by gagrice
Jul 06, 2009 (3:11 pm)
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Replying to: euphonium (Jul 06, 2009 2:58 pm)

Nebraska implemented an alternative fuel tax when the Prius became popular in 2005. The figure of $65 per year rings a bell.
 
66-685 (Operative date January 1, 2005). Purpose of act.
 
The purpose of the Alternative Fuel Tax Act is to supplement the provisions of the tax upon motor fuels by requiring any person who operates on the highways of this state a motor vehicle powered by alternative fuel to purchase an alternative fuel user permit to pay such person's estimated fuel use tax liability.

 
http://www.revenue.state.ne.us/fuels/statutes/alt_fuel_tax.htm
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Re: Sci-Fi pays as you go [gagrice] by steve_ HOST
Jul 06, 2009 (6:24 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 06, 2009 3:11 pm)

$1,000 fine if they catch a homegrown biofuel user not paying the $65 fee. I wonder how many d-i-y'selfers have paid the fee, and if any have ever been caught and fined.
 
Maybe they can just add the fee to the water bill.
 
"For ethanol from irrigated corn grown in Nebraska, travel in a car that achieves 16 mpg of ethanol represents the use of about 50 gal of water/mile driven (gwpm), the study calculates."
 
Penn Energy

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