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Is a Higher Gasoline Tax Good Or Bad For America?

849 messages,  Last post on Nov 19, 2009 at 2:22 PM

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Re: Sci-Fi pays as you go [steve_] by gagrice
Jul 02, 2009 (1:51 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 02, 2009 1:13 pm)

Murder is not the only crime. When I was a kid in LA in the late 1940s early 50s, it was not uncommon for me to be out and about without a fear. You never heard of sex predators back then. Could be a result of TV and certain types of movies. WWF could account for much of the violence.
 
I am sure higher gas tax would lead to a big uptick in stealing gas. It went up with the price last year. Remember the trailers with big tanks parking over the tanks and sucking them dry.
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Re: Sci-Fi pays as you go [gagrice] by steve_ HOST
Jul 02, 2009 (2:24 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 02, 2009 1:51 pm)

That's what I'm harping on - it's safer out there now than when we were kids, yet no one lets their kiddo walk to school, much less take the bus 5 hours to Atlanta alone like I did when I was 14, or flying from MS to San Fran by myself a year later.
 
Ah well, enough of today's rant (especially from a non-parent).
 
If gas gets too high, just buy a Hyundai. New car buyers can lock in gas at $1.49 a gallon for a year.
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Re: Sci-Fi pays as you go [steve_] by oldfarmer50
Jul 02, 2009 (2:55 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 02, 2009 8:48 am)

"...Freddy Krueger is on every street corner..."
 
Of course that's silly....Freddy Krueger is in Washington dreaming up nightmare stuff like that!
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Bad for America by bpraxis
Jul 03, 2009 (8:38 am)
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Giving more money to those in Washington is like giving beer and keys to a teenager.
 
  What kind of sales presentation have we recieved where confiscating more of our income is good???
 
  Is this not theft?
 
  Has anyone read the recent artilce where 31,587 Phd scientist's have just signed a petition stating that there is no global warming and over the last ten years the Earth is cooling?
 
  It appears to me that this issue is more about controling your property and your liberty.
 
  I have to say that this global warming nonsense is the most creative tax scam in my lifetime.
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Re: Bad for America [bpraxis] by steve_ HOST
Jul 03, 2009 (9:06 am)
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Replying to: bpraxis (Jul 03, 2009 8:38 am)

Has anyone read the recent article where 31,587 Phd
 
No, can't find it. Got a link?
 
I've known quite a few responsible teens over the years, btw.
 
You may enjoy the Are automobiles a major cause of global warming? discussion.
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If he was president by dave8697
Jul 03, 2009 (3:21 pm)
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Trump says he would try to destroy OPEC. Then he would force the banks to loan.
 
Trillions need to be loaned to bring the auto industry back to 11 million vehicle sales per year.
 
All these college grads with no prospects. In some cases, only 1 out of 100 finalists is given an offer. Sounds like we need more taxes with so many new hires wearing out the roads driving to work.
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Re: If he was president [dave8697] by steve_ HOST
Jul 03, 2009 (5:12 pm)
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Replying to: dave8697 (Jul 03, 2009 3:21 pm)

Trump might be ok from the automakers standpoint. He's been through what, two bankruptcies already?
 
Anyone got any gas tax news?
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Re: Sci-Fi pays as you go [steve_] by xrunner2
Jul 04, 2009 (12:12 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 01, 2009 5:29 pm)

The year is 2020 and the gasoline tax is history. In its place you get a monthly tax bill based on each mile you drove — tracked by a Global Positioning System device in your car and uploaded to a billing center.
 
Would like to see Conan Obrien do his green flashlight skit on this.
 
I hope that innovators/inventors of American ingenuity are already at work with designs to foil this nonsense. Some kind of device that will prevent monitoring of one's movements on the roads/highways.
 
This present bunch of nut politicians in DC are probably very close to, if not already, trampling our Constitution and Bill of Rights with actual or pending legislation.
 
Another scheme they have in mind to violate our privacy involves a national data base of every US citizens' "health" profile in the upcoming national health care plan. Also, under alread passed (House) Cap and Trade, there is a provision to require inspection by govt authority (Feds?) before a sale of your house to assure that it meets insulation effectiveness. If it doesn't, you can't sell your house until corrections are made.
 
As has been said on this board many times before, the most sensible plan is to adjust the gas tax charged at the pump to adequately fund roads and bridges.
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Re: Sci-Fi pays as you go [xrunner2] by kernick
Jul 06, 2009 (9:42 am)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jul 04, 2009 12:12 pm)

That's why there is no such thing as a small intrusion on the freedoms and liberties that individuals of this country have. This mentality of expanding control for either the individual good or societal-good goes against everything this country was founded on. This pending legislation just snowballs.
 
I'll drive an older car, or a kit-car before I'll drive around in something that can be tracked.
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Re: Sci-Fi pays as you go [kernick] by dtownfb
Jul 06, 2009 (10:59 am)
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Replying to: kernick (Jul 06, 2009 9:42 am)

We are definitely on the same page with this issue. Just keep the system as is. The more gas you buy, the more tax you pay. don't own a car, you don't pay any gas tax. Very simple, fair system.

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