Chrysler Allies With Fiat - READ ONLY

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#507 of 526 Re: The "Dart" Name [robr2] by berri

Dec 13, 2011 (2:32 pm)

Replying to: robr2 (Dec 13, 2011 11:55 am)
remember the last Darts. Good looking is not an attribute
 
Well Robr, like many other models that hang around the later ones get long in the tooth. But during the 60's and early 70's I'd see a lot of these cars on college campuses and military basis. Not high income people, but a lot of younger people in those demographics. You've got to compare it to comparables of the time like Nova (another decent looker for its price back then), Falcon, Maverick, etc. It wasn't in the same price and market as say a Cutlass or Camaro. I think one advantage Dart had in its segment was the availability of a 2 dr HT model and it had a relatively decent interior for its class as well.
 
But will those 70-90 year olds be out there buying Darts?
 
Well, seriously they won't be buying a lot of cars, period. I agree its market demographics will likely be younger buyers, but some older buyers, particularly in urban markets, still buy a small car.
 
Now I believe you are in the Boston area, so I don't see you as a perspective buyer. Driving in that town you need some metal around you because the lack of following the road laws means its like driving bumper cars there, right? But heck, you're airport can be a challenge too!

#508 of 526 Re: The "Dart" Name [berri] by robr2

Dec 13, 2011 (2:46 pm)

Replying to: berri (Dec 13, 2011 2:32 pm)
Now I believe you are in the Boston area, so I don't see you as a perspective buyer. Driving in that town you need some metal around you because the lack of following the road laws means its like driving bumper cars there, right? But heck, you're airport can be a challenge too!
 
Yes I'm in Boston. You don't need metal around you - what you need are nerves of steel, the unwillingness to blink and an understanding of how we interpret the rules of the road.
 
As for the airport, it was just named the most social airport in the country as more people check facebook at Logan than any other airport in the country. I attribute that to the delays.
 
Back on topic - you're probably right. I'm not a prospective Dart customer - at least not for myself.

#509 of 526 Re: The "Dart" Name [robr2] by berri

Dec 13, 2011 (2:56 pm)

Replying to: robr2 (Dec 13, 2011 2:46 pm)
Funny! Sometimes Logan approaches need nerves of steel too.

#510 of 526 Re: The "Dart" Name [berri] by fezo

Dec 13, 2011 (3:36 pm)

Replying to: berri (Dec 13, 2011 2:56 pm)
Proper car for driving in Boston:
 

#511 of 526 Re: The "Dart" Name [steve_] by fezo

Dec 13, 2011 (4:11 pm)

Replying to: Stever@Edmunds (Dec 13, 2011 2:16 pm)
Ya know, that 100 worst list is a little hard to take with a Trabant only finishing in 9th place.....

#512 of 526 Re: The "Dart" Name [fezo] by Stever@Edmunds HOST

Dec 13, 2011 (5:22 pm)

Replying to: fezo (Dec 13, 2011 4:11 pm)
And no Freelander. What were they thinking?

#513 of 526 Will Chrysler Save Fiat by hpmctorque

May 01, 2012 (7:15 am)

It could be argued that, with the considerable help from the bankruptcy, Fiat saved Chrysler. It now appears that Chrysler's resurgence may save the ailing Fiat Group. Interesting how things work out!
 
If Chrysler and Fiat ultimately merge, as planned, and survive or thrive, Sergio Marchionne's vision and ability to execute will deserve much of the credit.

#514 of 526 Re: Will Chrysler Save Fiat [hpmctorque] by Stever@Edmunds HOST

May 01, 2012 (7:21 am)

Replying to: hpmctorque (May 01, 2012 7:15 am)
Yep, Europe's economy is hurting but Chrysler's US sales are up 20%.
 
Chrysler's April up 20%, GM down 8.2%, Ford down 5% (Detroit News)

#515 of 526 Re: Will Chrysler Save Fiat [steve_] by gagrice

May 01, 2012 (8:32 am)

Replying to: Stever@Edmunds (May 01, 2012 7:21 am)
I saw my first Fiat 500C up close at the bank yesterday. Asked the owner what he thought. He loves driving it, though it is his wife's and he has to fight for every chance behind the wheel. It was just half the length of my Nissan Frontier PU.

#516 of 526 Alfa and Mazda... by hpmctorque

May 23, 2012 (6:14 am)

From today's Detroit Free Press...
 
"Fiat and Mazda said today they have agreed to form an alliance to codevelop a roadster, or two-seat sports car, to be built at Mazda’s plant in Hiroshima, Japan, starting in 2015.
 
The memorandum of understanding calls for the development and production of a new roadster for the Mazda and Alfa Romeo models based on Mazda’s next-generation MX-5. The two automakers also said they have agreed to discuss additional opportunities for cooperation in Europe..."
 
Could this be the percursor to a broader alliance, or, possibly, an eventual merger between Fiat-Chrysler and Mazda?

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