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#51 of 412 Re: Chrysler Minicars By Mid-2011 [kernick] by nippononly Feb 03, 2009 (12:16 pm)
Replying to: kernick (Feb 03, 2009 10:06 am) It's possible, I suppose, that the "pie" could expand, as most of the cars Fiat is proposing to sell out of Chrysler dealerships are in market segments that are very poorly represented here currently.
#52 of 412 Re: Chrysler Minicars By Mid-2011 (kernick) by hpmctorque Feb 03, 2009 (7:05 pm)
" Or Chrysler has to drop models, close factories and get rid of more U.S. workers then before the Fiats are sold."   I'm virtually certain this would happen. Chrysler would drop its intermediates (Dodge Stratus and Chrysler Sebring), which have never sold well. Also, it's already been announced that '09 is the last model year for the PT Cruiser and, at a minimum, the Compass will be dropped from the Jeep lineup. The Caliber is iffy, in my estimation. The Chrysler Corp. models that would probably survive have no Fiat equivalents, and include the Jeep Wrangler and Jeep SUVS, the Dodge and/or Chrysler minivans, the Dodge Charger and/or Chrysler 300 rear-wheel-drive cars, and the Dodge Challenger.   The government loans may give GM and Chrysler an opportunity to weather this storm, but will by no means guarantee their long-term survival. If there are too many models sold in the U.S., and I agree with you that there are, the marketplace will ultimately weed out the least competitive ones.
#53 of 412 Re: Chrysler Minicars By Mid-2011 [hpmctorque] by gagrice Feb 03, 2009 (7:17 pm)
Replying to: hpmctorque (Feb 03, 2009 9:02 am) give Chrysler and the rest of the industry a temporary waiver on safety and emissions   That is a great idea. Let all the auto makers offer the small trucks and cars that are high mileage into the country for 5 years. As long as the meet the current Euro4 emissions standards. It would give GM and Ford a chance to compete against the Asian imports in the smaller car segments. Face it the Big 3 has never done a good job building small cars in the USA.
#54 of 412 pay or we won't play by steve_ HOST Feb 03, 2009 (8:53 pm)
"In an interview with the Detroit Free Press, Fiat CEO, Sergio Marchionne said that Chrysler must meet the terms of federal loans and, "stand up on its own two legs."   "If it doesn't, we won't play," Marchionne added."   Fiat Boss: Chrysler "needs to stand up on its own two legs" Replies to this message: fezo (Feb 04, 2009 8:06 am) gagrice (Feb 04, 2009 9:42 am)
#55 of 412 Re: pay or we won't play [steve_] by fezo Feb 04, 2009 (8:06 am)
Replying to: steve_ (Feb 03, 2009 8:53 pm) I dunno. That doesn't sound good to me. Essentially sounds like Fiat is saying that if we fix it up enough they'll do us a favor and take it off our hands. Replies to this message: gagrice (Feb 04, 2009 9:42 am)
#56 of 412 Re: pay or we won't play [fezo] by gagrice Feb 04, 2009 (9:42 am)
Replying to: fezo (Feb 04, 2009 8:06 am) Didn't Fiat cost GM about $4B in a deal gone sour?
#57 of 412 Re: pay or we won't play [gagrice] by hpmctorque Feb 04, 2009 (10:37 am)
"Didn't Fiat cost GM about $4B in a deal gone sour?"   That's correct, but this historical fact doesn't serve as an analogy for Chrysler's partnership with Fiat, if that's what you're implying. The situations between the Chrysler-fiat deal and the earlier GM-Fiat one are very different, and shouldn't be compared.
#58 of 412 Done deal isn't by steve_ HOST Feb 15, 2009 (10:03 am)
"The deal for Italian automaker Fiat SpA to take a 35 percent stake in Chrysler LLC will not be finished until after Chrysler submits a restructuring plan to the federal government, a Chrysler official said Friday."   Chrysler official: No Fiat deal closing by Tuesday (AP)
#59 of 412 Re: The upside for Chrysler is easy to see, I think [lokki] by roeteena Feb 21, 2009 (7:20 pm)
Replying to: lokki (Jan 21, 2009 6:51 am) Yes it would be nice,I think no matter what you get ahold of now days seems like they all have similar problems,I still can't get my factory alarm off,I to have read alot of bad reviews,no wonder there there sales are down,what really irrates me the most is you get out here on the street and you see one right after the other Town & Country and you just start cussing all of them and makes you that much more madder.I agree it will sell to congress.I know one thing I will never own another Chrysler again.
#60 of 412 Good match? by kernick Feb 23, 2009 (10:52 am)
Is this like a man and woman falling in love while waiting outside of bankruptcy court?   http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Moodys-cuts-Fiats-long-term/story.aspx?gui- d=%7B6868272C%2DD5CE%2D44DA%2DA321%2DFD1F889BEEC5%7D

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