Ask the Car People.SM


Chrysler Allies With Fiat - READ ONLY

526 messages,  Last post on Jul 02, 2012 at 8:44 AM

You are in the Automotive News & Views-Archives Forum.

What is this discussion about? Chrysler, Alfa Romeo, Automotive News

Messages Page 49 of 53

#477 of 526 more flexible labor contracts by steve_ HOST

Nov 22, 2011 (7:35 am)

Italian automaker Fiat SpA sent a letter to its unions saying it would scrap all labor contracts at factories in Italy after Dec. 31.
 
Fiat's plants in Italy have all lost money."
 
Fiat to scrap labor contracts in Italy in 2012 (Automotive News)

#478 of 526 Re: more flexible labor contracts [steve_] by gagrice

Nov 22, 2011 (8:05 am)

Replying to: steve_ (Nov 22, 2011 7:35 am)
Wonder how Fiat will deal with the UAW if they don't show a profit here? It is interesting as liberal as Italy is they can just pull the rug out from under the Union. It would not be possible here without bankruptcy. Our NLRB laws are much more biased toward Union labor.

#479 of 526 Re: more flexible labor contracts [gagrice] by steve_ HOST

Nov 22, 2011 (8:35 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Nov 22, 2011 8:05 am)
Reading a bit between the lines, I got the impression that Fiat is leaving some coalition and is going to negotiate with the unions separately.
 
The Chrysler purchase is going to save their pancetta.

#480 of 526 Re: more flexible labor contracts [steve_] by gagrice

Nov 22, 2011 (1:46 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Nov 22, 2011 8:35 am)
Sounds like Italy has a lot more problems than Fiat dumping on the Union workers.

#481 of 526 Re: more flexible labor contracts [steve_] by kyfdx HOST

Nov 22, 2011 (4:45 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Nov 22, 2011 7:35 am)
According to an article in this week's BusinessWeek, Italy has the worst labor climate in the developed world.. One manager said it's easier to get rid of his wife than to fire an employee...
 
So... not sure how Fiat is going to unilaterally dump their contracts...
 
article link

#482 of 526 Re: more flexible labor contracts [kyfdx] by hpmctorque

Nov 23, 2011 (8:18 am)

Replying to: kyfdx (Nov 22, 2011 4:45 pm)
Good point, but change has to start somewhere. I applaud Marchionne's bold step. At a minimum, it'll serve as a wake-up call for Italy's labor. With luck, it'll lead to significant labor concessions.

#483 of 526 The Dart is back by steve_ HOST

Dec 06, 2011 (9:26 am)

"The 2013 Dodge Dart will debut on January 9 at the 2012 Detroit Auto Show, putting to rest rumors that the brand's new compact sedan would be called the Dodge Hornet, Duster or Camber.
 
The new Dart is a critically important offering from Dodge, since it targets the Chevrolet Cruze, Ford Focus and Hyundai Elantra and marks the brand's most serious offensive into the compact sedan segment since the Dodge Neon — which has been off the market for seven years."
 
2013 Dodge Dart Set for World Debut at 2012 Detroit Auto Show

#484 of 526 Re: The Dart is back [steve_] by andre1969

Dec 06, 2011 (10:44 am)

Replying to: steve_ (Dec 06, 2011 9:26 am)
Let's just hope that it's truly something that would do the Dart name proud, and wouldn't be better off badged as a Volare, Reliant, Neon, etc. From what little I can make of those pics though, it does look interesting.

#485 of 526 Re: The Dart is back [andre1969] by robr2

Dec 06, 2011 (10:55 am)

Replying to: andre1969 (Dec 06, 2011 10:44 am)
Let's just hope that it's truly something that would do the Dart name proud...
 
Really?? Unless you're a Mopar fanatic, most of the target market won't have a clue of the Dart's history. In fact, the only thing I can remember of it was the sad little compact it was during it's final years. Trust me, the Dart name does nothing for me.

#486 of 526 Re: The Dart is back [robr2] by andre1969

Dec 06, 2011 (11:20 am)

Replying to: robr2 (Dec 06, 2011 10:55 am)
In fact, the only thing I can remember of it was the sad little compact it was during it's final years.
 
I remember one review from some Consumer magazine (not Reports or Guide, but something else) that tested a '75 Dart and gave it pretty high ratings. One of their comments was that it felt more like a well-preserved 1965 car than a brand-new model, but with the way the newer cars were turning out, that was actually a good thing!
 
Personally, I started disliking the styling of them after 1972, but I still think they were good cars. Quality did go down in later years, but hey, it was the 70's, when EVERYTHING went downhill!

Messages Page 49 of 53

Advertisement

Browse by Category

Browse by Vehicle
   View All Vehicles

Browse by Board
Browse by Topic
View All Topics

Edmunds Community

Advertisement