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Chrysler Allies With Fiat

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Re: Chrysler-Fiat Alliance by hpmctorque
Jan 20, 2009 (6:33 am)
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I think this is a very significant development for the auto industry, and that this alliance has a decent chance of succeeding. Most would agree that Chrysler could not turn around on its own. Fiat's CEO Sergio Marchionne has proven himself to be a very capable manager, as evidenced by Fiat's (still-in-progress) turnaround.
 
I think this alliance will benefit American motorists by providing new fuel and space efficient, yet fun-to-drive choices.
 
I also think this deal make more business sense than a GM-Chrysler merger.
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Re: Chrysler-Fiat Alliance [hpmctorque] by steve_ HOST
Jan 20, 2009 (8:13 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Jan 20, 2009 6:33 am)

I like it.
 
Here's some more links from Edmunds.
 
It's Official: Chrysler gets hitched to Fiat
 
Chrysler, Fiat Sign Global Strategic Alliance Deal
 
There's no news yet as to possible management changes at the companies.
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Re: Chrysler-Fiat Alliance [steve_] by berri
Jan 20, 2009 (9:12 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 20, 2009 8:13 am)

Let's see, Mopar has consistently low quality ratings and now they get a new name - is it "Fix It Again Tony" or "Fix It All The Time"?
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Re: Chrysler-Fiat Alliance [berri] by andre1969
Jan 20, 2009 (12:02 pm)
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Replying to: berri (Jan 20, 2009 9:12 am)

With any luck, it might not be so bad. Wasn't Renault able to help get Nissan straightened out a few years back?
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they talk by nippononly
Jan 20, 2009 (12:41 pm)
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about using Fiat's network in Europe to increase Chrysler's global sales, but I am raising my BS flag on that one.
 
As for domestic Chrysler sales, Chrysler will get several smaller and more fuel-efficient models out of the deal. Will they be called Chryslers or will they be Fiats sold at Chrysler dealers? Or some new brand name?
 
This will ultimately prove to be very similar to the Daimler deal for Chrysler, in only worsening its future prospects I'm sure. But I'm not totally against it if it provides Fiat with a means of getting back into the American market, at least with Alfa.
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they talk (nippononly) by hpmctorque
Jan 20, 2009 (12:53 pm)
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There's a market for certain Jeep models in Europe, especially when equipped with diesel engines. Fiat is recognized in Europe for having excellent diesel technology. This could benefit Chrysler.
 
I could also envision a diesel version of the Chrysler 300 for the European and U.S. market.
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Chysler, The Cat With Nine Lives by hpmctorque
Jan 21, 2009 (2:17 am)
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The Chrysler-Fiat (or Fiat-Chrysler?) alliance isn't quite a done deal, since it's not binding yet. However, it makes strategic sense for both companies, Chrysler dealers, and American workers.
 
There's little product overlap, Chrysler would get much needed new product, while Fiat would gain a ready made distribution network that would be grateful for the opportunity to remain alive. Additionally, Chrysler would get expanded distribution for its Jeep models, minivans, and rear wheel Drive cars in Europe. Further, as mentioned in my previous message, Fiat's diesel engines and technology could be very useful to Chrysler.
 
A good strategic fit is hardly a guarantee that Chrysler will survive, or Fiat, for that matter. However, this deal offers a "YES, WE CAN!" type of hope just when Chrysler was given up for dead by many, and at a time when hope is scarce in the auto industry.
 
Another consideration is that this alliance, if it comes to pass and works well, could eventually be expanded to include one or more other automakers. I'm sure Peugeot-Citroen, just to name one possibility, is taking note of this deal.
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by zoomzoomn
Jan 21, 2009 (5:39 am)
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This whole story would be better set in "news of the weird". There doesn't seem to be much of an upside for Chrysler except access to a small car platform. Does anyone remember the Strada? I hope Fiats have come a long way since then!
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Re: Chysler, The Cat With Nine Lives [hpmctorque] by roeteena
Jan 21, 2009 (6:44 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Jan 21, 2009 2:17 am)

Would be nice if they would come out with something that won't stall when you go somewhere or do away with their secuity systems I have read a whole lot of bad review on the Town and Country and i have to agree I have one that won't start because you can't reset the security alarm.
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The upside for Chrysler is easy to see, I think by lokki
Jan 21, 2009 (6:51 am)
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The upside for Chrysler is easy to see. It will be a year or two before Fiat has products that can be sold in the U.S. market (at least). In the meantime, Chrysler has an excuse to ask congress for funds to continue operations until the Italian cavalry arrives.
 
It's a plausible plan for viability that they don't otherwise possess... a promise of new product that they can't afford to design themselves.
 
It may not WORK, but it will sell to congress, I think.

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