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About to lease a 2009 XF - Is this a good deal? by wade15
May 07, 2009 (2:12 pm)
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I am about to lease a 2009 XF and I have been quoted (by a sales person that leased me another jag in the past) the following;
 
- $750/month x 39 months.
- It is a “true $0” lease, meaning that tax, title, tags, etc. are rolled into the lease payment
- The miles per year are 10.5k and the residual is $26.5k
- I live in and will be leasing the car from NJ
  
Sound like a good deal, or can I negotiate down even further? (PS – I have perfect credit of above 800). Shoot me a note directly wpiersonleeandpierson.com, thanks.
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Carman: Need some info - MF & residual by lincrussell
May 09, 2009 (3:11 pm)
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What is the best money factor / residual I can obtain directly from an outside finance company (US Bank, Wells, Bank of the West, etc...) on a 2009 XF Luxury for a term of 48 months, 12K miles a year? MSRP with options is 53,850. I have negotiated well below that in regard to price, but that's inconsequential for these purposes. I have reasons to not use Chase Bank (who the dealership is presently working with), so I need to know where I can get the best deal. I have excellent credit and will qualify w whomever.
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Re: 2010 XF [themaven] by green33
May 09, 2009 (5:43 pm)
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Replying to: themaven (May 05, 2009 10:47 pm)

the 2010s are in. i drove a xfr today as well as a xf prem lux portfolio package. interestingly they are not yet dealing any better on the 2009s
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Re: XF April '09 lease rates: Carman can u pls help? [sai1] by Car_man HOST
May 21, 2009 (1:42 am)
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Replying to: sai1 (May 03, 2009 11:58 am)

You're very welcome, sai1.
 
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Re: XF April '09 lease rates: Carman can u pls help? [livefromny] by Car_man HOST
May 21, 2009 (1:51 am)
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Replying to: livefromny (May 05, 2009 9:46 am)

Thanks livefromny. I'm glad that you find this information so helpful. According to the latest information that I have seen, Jaguar's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 XF Supercharged with 12,000 miles per year are .00051 and 47%, respectively.
 
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Re: Carman: Need some info - MF & residual [lincrussell] by Car_man HOST
May 21, 2009 (1:58 am)
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Replying to: lincrussell (May 09, 2009 3:11 pm)

Hi lincrussell. Chase is working in conjunction with Jaguar to provide a special lease program on the 2009 XF right now. Chase's 36 month lease program is much more attractive than its 48 month program on the car that you are interested in right now. I will provide you with both so that you can compare them.
 
Chase's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 Jaguar XF Luxury with 12,000 miles per year are .00029 and 45%, respectively. The numbers for an otherwise identical 48 month lease are .00093 and 36%.
 
I'm not sure what bank outside of Chase has a decent lease program on this car right now.
 
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Cap Reduction Tax? by bigfred187
May 28, 2009 (6:17 am)
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All the dealers in my area seem to have problems with honesty. I was looking at a Jag XF Supercharged Lease. In addition to the $4,000 down payment (not inceptions), they said that there was a tax on the Capitalized Cost reduction of about $1,000. The dealer was coming off the MSRP by about $10k. I've never heard of this before, a tax on the cap cost reduction? Is this legit? In a way it doesn't matter what it is called, I'm only paying so much. Thanks!
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Car_man can u pls help? [Car_man] by sai1
May 30, 2009 (11:33 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Apr 27, 2009 3:26 am)

Car_man, do the following Chase rates you provided apply for May as well:
 
1) Premium Luxury - 24 Months/15K - .00023 MF / 51% Residual
2) Luxury - 24 Months/15K - .00015 MF / 52% Residual
 
How much would these change with a 12K/year lease? Can u also please share details of the Chase 24 month lease on a 2009 Supercharged XF?
 
Many thanks in advance for your help.
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Re: lease rates [green33] by jwiz1
May 31, 2009 (6:57 am)
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Replying to: green33 (May 05, 2009 12:34 pm)

I have had a somewhat similar experience. My current S-Type lease is up in August, but Jaguar sent a letter saying that they would pay the final 2 months lease payments if I buy or lease a new Jag by June 30 and take delivery by August 31. I have been looking at the XF and went in to investigate. The dealer was able to go several thousand below invoice on both the 2009 Lux and Prem Lux (to around $43K for a Lux including the sound system and cold weather package options - MSRP around $54K and around $46K for a Prem. Lux - about $58K MSRP). I wanted to continue leasing, but found the lease terms terrible when compared to other luxury brands (31% residual and .0023 MF (about 5.5% which is okay but not below market) for 48 months and 12K miles or 36% residual for 36 months). This was through US Bank which I was told had a better program than Chase.
 
When I said I would be better off just buying the car outright, I was told that Chase and US Bank would not finance it at their incentive rates at that price. I said "fine - then I will just buy it outright and worry about the financing myself. Then I was told that they could not sell the car at that price because they are receiving a large incentive for 2009 leases that they are willing to pass on to me, but there is no incentive available to the dealer if it is not leased.
 
So it looks like you can either drive down the price $5 to 6K or more below invoice and put up with crappy lease terms that jacks your payment back up, or you can get better financing or lease terms but without the price break.
 
I have used this dealer for years and trust him and he really went to the mat to squeeze every penny out of the cost of the car, but he said his hands were tied by the leasing companies as to what lease terms he could offer if the incentive payment was taken. And I understand why he cannot sell the car at such a low price without the incentive payment. So I am running all of the different options to see what is best. Also waiting to see what the June leasing rates are for both Chase and US Bank (does anyone know?). I have no issue with the dealer as he is really working hard with the hand he has been dealt and I will likely purchase from him as soon as I figure out the best deal including going outside of the Jag financing world.
 
I am in the Chicago area. Has anyone seen this elsewhere? Even with the lousy residual, the lease payment is not too bad because the capital cost is so low. But I sure wish it was easier to compare all of the alternatives. Also, it does appear that US Bank is offering a Jag leasing program along with Chase - at least in this area.
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Re: lease rates [jwiz1] by kyfdx HOST
May 31, 2009 (9:21 am)
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Replying to: jwiz1 (May 31, 2009 6:57 am)

I was going to suggest that you lease, then buy out the lease after about six months.. Then you'd only be out the acquisition fee, as an extra...
 
But, then I noticed you were in Chicago... You'd have to pay the full sales tax twice, which would negate most, if not all, of your savings...
 
Not that familiar with Jaguar leases, but Volvo has the same sort of programs.... Massive incentives if you lease through a 3rd party, but not if you purchase. It really makes no sense to me.
 
regards,
kyfdx
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