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Toyota Venza vs Lexus RX 350

87 messages,  Last post on Sep 17, 2009 at 9:12 AM

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What is this discussion about? Toyota Venza, Lexus RX 350, Car Comparisons


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Re: [xGuessWhox] by venomshot629
Jan 29, 2009 (9:03 pm)
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Replying to: xGuessWhox (Jan 29, 2009 8:35 pm)

I dont work for any Toyota dealer, I'm a consumer who can fairly look at two cars, ignoring the names, and state which is the better value for the cost. Its when people make BS statements like "The car just feels and looks cheap and the drive is nowhere smooth or quiet as Lexus and I was disappointed after mere few minutes into the test drive" that I come with the response I did. You keep talking about how much better the Lexus is with "high-end" this and that, when they literally have the same features. Did you not see this post?
 
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f1c3447/17
 
Unless by high quality you mean 'The Lexus has wood grain on the wheel, and the Venza doesn't', you must be flat-out "blind" to not see the similarities in the car. Especially after looking at the side-by-side pics in the post above. There is nothing cheap about either car, they both have the same features and options available; the layout is the only difference. If you want to argue that the Lexus is better because the placement of the center vents are horizontal rather than vertical, have fun talking to yourself.
 
And as far as the exterior differences...:
 


 
Okay, connect the Lexus headlights to the center grille, add some more curves and smooth indents to the car body, and you have what looks pretty damn similar to a Venza. Or vice versa. Your argument really has no grounds.
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Re: [venomshot629] by wwest
Jan 30, 2009 (9:03 am)
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Replying to: venomshot629 (Jan 29, 2009 9:03 pm)

"..feels and looks cheap..."
 
Isn't Lexus marketing oriented to make exactly these points..??
 
So why do you find it surprising that someone takes that position...??
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Re: [DAGHVAC] by jkenley
Jan 30, 2009 (11:16 am)
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Replying to: DAGHVAC (Jan 29, 2009 11:09 am)

If the 2010 rx is a fancy Venza then the size of the 2010 rx has shrunk. I know the Venza looks like the RX from the outside and that is the very reason I went to look at the venza. Once we got into the venza we immediately said that it was too small and never took it out for a test drive. We have ridden in an rx, we have an es 330 and when it's in the shop we get an rx as a loaner. No comparison in size, the rx is definately bigger.
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Re: [wwest] by venomshot629
Jan 30, 2009 (11:31 am)
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Replying to: wwest (Jan 30, 2009 9:03 am)

Yes, Lexus marketing probably does aim to make those points, but I dont think that necessarily means that the Toyota designers just have to "accept" the role as the obviously lower-priced version, and with this specific model I think they blurred the line a bit. I'm sure maybe next year Lexus will add a bit more to differentiate itself from the Venza after seeing how Toyota stepped their game up, but as of now I don't think they were expecting this type of competition. Either way, I like Lexus, and I like Toyota, just saying there is not a significant apparent difference between these two specific models.
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by terry79
Jan 30, 2009 (3:45 pm)
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I haven't driven the Venza mainly because of the 20" tires. I've heard comments that the ride could be smoother if they had 17" or 18" tires. I mean what's next,
22" rims with spinners. Some people that have bought the highlander don't even like the 19" tires because of treadwear issues and only two or three tires that
are currently available. Maybe I'm old fashioned but I'd rather more rubber than more steel.
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Re: [terry79] by berri
Jan 30, 2009 (4:40 pm)
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Replying to: terry79 (Jan 30, 2009 3:45 pm)

I don't like those big wheels on the Highlander and Venza either. Not only will they probably wear faster and be expensive to replace, but they likely hurt ice and snow traction as well. I think a smaller dimension wheel would allow more rubber and a better ride, as well as much lower replacement costs.
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Re: [terry79] by bodble2
Jan 30, 2009 (5:23 pm)
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Replying to: terry79 (Jan 30, 2009 3:45 pm)

Yeah, but those 20" wheels make an otherwise fairly ho-hum cross-over look pretty hip. That was my reaction when I first saw a photo of a Venza. All I saw was those huge wheels, and thought, "what the hell model is that?"
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Re: [venomshot629] by qs933
Jan 30, 2009 (11:18 pm)
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Replying to: venomshot629 (Jan 29, 2009 9:03 pm)

I like the Venza, but the difference between it and the RX is more than just "the layout." The RX is simply more luxurious and the 2010 model differentiates itself quite well from the Venza. The 2010 RX will likely start at least $10K higher than the base Venza V6. It should look and feel more expensive because it is.
 
What this means to you all depends on your expectations. Those with "Lexus" expectations are likely to conclude that the leather isn't as soft, the woodgrain trim far inferior to real wood, and the ride much too rough. Those with "Toyota" expectations will probably find the Venza to be one of the better interiors in the Toyota lineup.
 
I'm sure the product managers at Toyota and Lexus mull over positioning extensively when planning their respective products. Even the wheel choice probably reflects the differing target audience. The Venza has 20" wheels that look great.
 
The 2010 RX has 19" wheels (with 18" standard) -- sacrificing appearance for what's probably a quieter, smoother ride. I saw a 2010 RX with 18" wheels in person today and was disappointed with the way it looked, especially when it was parked near a Venza with those 20" wheels.
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Re: [bodble2] by wwest
Jan 31, 2009 (9:44 am)
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Replying to: bodble2 (Jan 30, 2009 5:23 pm)

"..look pretty hip.."
 
You can ride in comfort on 17" or 18" wheels are you can have perfect strangers think you are "hip".....
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Re: [qs933] by wwest
Jan 31, 2009 (9:47 am)
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Replying to: qs933 (Jan 30, 2009 11:18 pm)

If I could buy a new F/awd 2010 RX with the Venza'a upcoming DFI I4 my order would already be in.

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