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Re: [barnstormer64]
by coldcranker
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Jan 17, 2009 (7:27 am)
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Replying to: barnstormer64 (Jan 17, 2009 7:04 am)
I don't know about the AWD system, but it wouldn't surprise me that it never needs changing, as car makers have moved toward using synthetic diff oil in those that will last for 10 years, which is all they care about.
When we say "newer" Fords have a 100,000 transmision change interval, I think thats been the case for about 8 years now in Ford's conventional automatics, so thats what I mean by "newer". The CVT is really an aberration. A totally different animal, as that big steel chain inside needs its lube.
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by barnstormer64
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Jan 17, 2009 (8:15 am)
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Thanks.
Seems surprising to me that the Service Advisor was that unaware of the CVT's requirements.
I honestly don't think that particular dealer has ever serviced the CVT. That Service Advisor has been there at least 5 or 6 years.
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Re: [barnstormer64]
by coldcranker
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Jan 17, 2009 (9:10 am)
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Replying to: barnstormer64 (Jan 17, 2009 8:15 am)
That service advisor probably just had a brain freeze or something. Ford has put about 350,000 or so CVTs in Ford500s/ Freestyles/Montegos in recent memory.
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Re: [coldcranker]
by barnstormer64
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Jan 17, 2009 (1:41 pm)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Jan 17, 2009 9:10 am)
Yeah, but how many of those have had to have the fluid changed so far?
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Re: [barnstormer64]
by tim156
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Jan 17, 2009 (2:27 pm)
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Replying to: barnstormer64 (Jan 17, 2009 8:15 am)
If that particular dealer, or any dealer for that matter, sold only a few or no Freestyles they may not have sent any techs to CVT training. The first question I would ask is "have your transmission technicians received CVT training and does your shop have the proper equipment for a CVT fluid change"? Any cross contamination with conventional tranny fluid can damage your CVT. I asked at my dealer and two techs are certified. Also, if you purchased your Freestyle from a small town dealer, I would consider taking it to a higher volume dealership to have the CVT maintenance done. The reason being, there's a better chance they have the proper equipment and the certified techs, not a transmission tech who has to read a step, perform it, read another step and so on. Since this work is done at approximately 60000 miles, many cars will be past the warranty date. If there was a problem say 2000 miles later because the tech wasn't properly trained and you couldn't prove it, well, I know how ticked off I would be.
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Re: [barnstormer64]
by coldcranker
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Jan 17, 2009 (6:39 pm)
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Replying to: barnstormer64 (Jan 17, 2009 1:41 pm)
Ford sold more Ford500s than Freestyles, and about half of those had CVTs. Since the average vehicle gets 12,000 miles per year, probably only about 5% of all CVTs sold have had the service. Guessing, of course. Some small percentage anyway. Its probably getting to be a common, hot issue now among the technicians at Ford dealerships. Just a few more months and they will be practiced.
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