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#306 of 345 Re: 1964 Coupe Deville [parm] by isellhondas

Jun 02, 2010 (8:52 am)

Replying to: parm (Jun 02, 2010 8:41 am)
OK, not the gold I was thinking about.
 
A buddy took a liking to Cadillac Sevilles a few years back. The ones that were built from 1975-1979. He owned several of them. The nicest one of them all was a GOLD one! I mean Trumpet Gold with (of course) a white vinyl top.
 
When he got tired of it, he had a tough time. People would pull up to his house, see the rear end of it in the garage and take off.
 
It's not the softer gold in those photos.
 
Still I perfer the beige and I'm dead against color changes for a number of reasons.
 
But, that's me.

#307 of 345 Re: 1964 Coupe Deville [Mr_Shiftright] by parm

Jun 02, 2010 (8:51 am)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jun 02, 2010 8:28 am)
I'm very dubious of club member evaluations. They are GREAT for authentication but generally not very good at knowing market value. They tend to overvalue their cars considerably, so I'd rely on them for knowing what is "correct" but not for what to pay. Certainly they are a good tool in your toolbox. Agreed. We're saying the same thing. You just said it more eloquently.
 
If this car had something ridiculous like 5K to 10K miles, I'd agree with your low-mileage vs. value quandry. But, I don't consider 49K to be ultra-low mileage. To me, that's a well-preserved car that's worth paying extra for. But, not something worthy of a museum piece. Let's face it, these cars don't get driven that much anyway - maybe 1,500 per year? At that rate, I could drive it for 10 years and the odometer would read only 65K and in 2020 that would still be considered low mileage. Not a bad situation.

#308 of 345 Re: 1964 Coupe Deville [Mr_Shiftright] by isellhondas

Jun 02, 2010 (8:54 am)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jun 02, 2010 8:47 am)
Funny, he can replace a heat riser because he wanted his Cadillac to be "near perfect" but for some reason he couldn't "address" the problem with the A/C?
 
I wonder why?
 
 I think white is a great color on those. not too hot on the red interior though.

#309 of 345 Re: 1964 Coupe Deville [Mr_Shiftright] by parm

Jun 02, 2010 (8:55 am)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jun 02, 2010 8:47 am)
Yeah, that's an old ad. That car sold about a year ago. But, you're right, that's a good comp - assuming the condition of this '64 CDV in Burbank is as good.

#310 of 345 Re: 1964 Coupe Deville [parm] by isellhondas

Jun 02, 2010 (8:58 am)

Replying to: parm (Jun 02, 2010 8:51 am)
Considering that's a little over 1000 miles a year, that's pretty "ultra" low mileage, wouldn't you think?
 
I would expect the same kind of replacements I had with that Rampage. Gaskets, seals etc. Not bad once it's done.

#311 of 345 Re: 1964 Coupe Deville [isellhondas] by parm

Jun 02, 2010 (9:02 am)

Replying to: isellhondas (Jun 02, 2010 8:52 am)
Yeah, Sierra Gold is pretty subtle. Rather classy in my opinion. Hey, you don't think I'd do something stupid, do you??? (don't answer that)

#312 of 345 Re: 1964 Coupe Deville [isellhondas] by parm

Jun 02, 2010 (9:13 am)

Replying to: isellhondas (Jun 02, 2010 8:58 am)
Good thoughts on the seals/gaskets, etc. I think once I find out a bit more about this car's history, it will help answer that question. Supposedly the shop trying to sell it has gone over the car mechanically - though I know the problems you're referring to don't always provide any warning until they implode. While I think it would be kind of a romantic road trip to drive a collector car from California back to Indiana, the thought of being stranded on the side of an Arizona highway (even with my AAA membership) makes me think that transporting it back here in an enclosed carrier (ie., Reliable, etc.) might be a wise investment (probably around $2K?).
 

#313 of 345 Re: 1964 Coupe Deville [parm] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Jun 02, 2010 (9:18 am)

Replying to: parm (Jun 02, 2010 9:13 am)
No way you want to drive it. It doesn't have to be a closed carrier. This is not a Duesenberg! They take brand new Porsches on open carriers.

#314 of 345 Re: 1964 Coupe Deville [Mr_Shiftright] by isellhondas

Jun 02, 2010 (10:26 am)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jun 02, 2010 9:18 am)
Yeah, I think they charge something like triple to ship enclosed.
 
Waste of money. The car get's dirty. Big deal!
 
" Gone over the car mechanically" can mean a lot of different things to different people. Just expect the things I mentioned.. Gaskets,seals, rubber parts etc.
 
Those were great engines and transmission. Expect maybe some front end bushings, lower ball joints etc. If those had a nylon timing gear (?) it would be pretty brittle by now. I wold probably have someone pull the front cover and replace the timing chain and gears and maybe the water pump if it's questionable.
 
Not trying to scare you, just thinking outloud.
 
When I bought the Rampage, I thought about flying down and driving it up here.
 
It would have awakened from it's slumber and pushed 1000 miles.
 
I'm glad I thought otherwise. Those 25 year old tires would have blown along with those wheel cylinders and who knows what else. Nothing like getting stranded by the side of I-5 15 miles south of Corning CA! (Been there)

#315 of 345 Here's a '62 Coupe Deville by parm

Jun 02, 2010 (1:46 pm)

Was be-bopping around Hemmings and found this: 1962 Coupe Deville The good news is it's in Michigan and only about 5 hours away. Plus, it has only 45K miles and the off-white color on this body style really works for me. The bad news is this car lacks factory A/C. In fact, it's rather oddly optioned. It has factory cruise control (pretty rare for a '62 non-Fleetwood, trust me), but lacks A/C. Go figure. Last, but certainly not least, this one is being offered by a dealer with an asking price of $17,500. Good Lord! That's stupid money for a non factory A/C car. For that kind of money, you should also get a free lobotomy. Actually, if you pay that much, one should be required!
 
Mechanically, I'd much rather have a '64 CDV. In 1962, the 390 motor was quite the lump and not the smaller, refined one that came along in 1963. And, naturally, the transmission is the lesser hydramatic flavor. Then again, I've always liked the 1962 styling.
 
If you could get this for around $9,500, then not having A/C "might" make sense. Or, am I too strong? Anybody know the cost for a professionally installed Vintage Air system?

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