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#4242 of 4291 Re: Another Government Failure Example [kernick]
Feb 01, 2010 (10:59 am)
They really don't understand what's wrong with the economy, and how to fix it. $700B loaned out with little to no positive effect, and at a loss of about $150B!
You're right, they don't! Like I've said before, a lot of those jobs that went away are just never going to come back. People that held those jobs are SOL, no matter how much the economy picks up.
I mean, how many administrative assistants/office managers do we need? To do what, order pencils and papers?
Here's another example. I was watching the news the other morning, and on comes one of those how-to-get-your-life-in-order segments. The special guest gave herself the title of (no, I'm not making this up) "Gardening Expert and Life Style Coach". I mean, come on now . No amount of government spending is going to make me hire a "...Life Style Coach".
#4243 of 4291 Re: Another Government Failure Example [srs_49]
Feb 01, 2010 (11:15 am)
Life Style Coach
Jay Leno did a joke on what a Life Style Coach is, he called them friends.
#4244 of 4291 Re: You don't need a Master's in Finance ... [kdhspyder]
Feb 01, 2010 (4:06 pm)
...doesn't make them accurate or true. You may wish to live in a negative world but others do not. Being in a minority you'll just have to learn to deal with it.
Actually the polls I saw showed a majority of Americans were against C4C and for good reasons.
#4245 of 4291 Re: and with that [kathyc2]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Feb 01, 2010 (10:00 pm)
I think the real question should be how many people with qualifying vehicles are waiting to see if C4C is brought back before they make a move.
Whoa, that's a great question. Unintended consequences beyond simply pulling sales forward perhaps?
#4246 of 4291 Re: and with that [steve_]
Feb 01, 2010 (11:55 pm)
Why would anybody be silly enough to wait for another C4C program? Consumers didn't profit from C4C. Check your records and see what happened to the rebates for C4C eligible cars--they dropped like a rock! Transaction prices for those cars were higher during C4C than in the months immediately preceding the program and are lower today (now that inventories are increasing as the 2010s arrive). One example: Ford Focus was selling at MSRP in some areas. When has that ever happened?
If you want a good deal on a 2009 model, buy it now and trade that clunker for the $500 it's really worth...
#4247 of 4291 Re: and with that [vinnyny]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Feb 02, 2010 (12:05 am)
Well, I was eligible last time around but didn't bite. We're due for a new car, but we don't have any real urge to go buy one (we're silly that way ). So a new Cash for Clunkers program could sway us.
And I want a 2010 or newer - I'm done with the aughts.
#4248 of 4291 Re: and with that [vinnyny]
Feb 02, 2010 (12:06 am)
The problem with C4C was that it wasn't a simple "buy a vehicle that gets 5mpg or 10mpg higher than the one you are turning in" It had cumbersome rules, stupidity at every turn(like how a SUV could only be towards another SUV - and even 1mpg better was enough to qualify), and was a total nightmare to implement.
#4249 of 4291 Re: and with that [vinnyny]
Feb 02, 2010 (3:39 am)
"Consumers didn't profit from C4C. "
but the union did, and end of the day that's watter matters in Washington.
#4250 of 4291 Re: and with that [steve_]
Feb 02, 2010 (5:26 am)
You spoke for our household too, since we're also due for a new car, but don't have any real urge to buy one.
#4251 of 4291 Some Manufacturers increased the rebate for CFC
Feb 02, 2010 (5:56 am)
I bought a 2009 Mazda 5 when the CFC first started. When the program kicked in Mazda added a $500 CFC rebate. I also got a $1750 rebate. I got a car that listed fo $22,000 and change for $17,900. I benefitted from CFC but I agree not everyone did.