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Automotive News & Views Cash for Clunkers - Good or Bad Idea?
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 13, 2009 7:16 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 13, 2009 7:22 pm) I'll definitely take the Camry, you can have the old Packard and I'll visit you as often as I can in the emergency room.  New cars are supposed to fold up---that's the whole point. If the car doesn't absorb the energy, YOU do. It's no "accident" that people are driving far more miles than in the 1950s and with far fewer accident fatalities. What's more important. Your skull or your fender? Anyone who trades an old clunker for year 2009 safety features has my blessing. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 13, 2009 7:22 pm) The occupant of the 1985 pickup will be bounced all over the cab and likely have severe trauma and head injuries. Do I want to be T-boned by an SUV in a modern CamCord or in a 1985 pickup? I'll take the CamCord in every case. Even the 1990's versions of the F-series had the cabs themselves fold up like an accordian in a frontal collision. It's amazing.. here are the pics from the IIHS done at 40% offset.. http://www.iihs.org/ratings/rating.aspx?id=7 After this result the IIHS recommended that no American ever ride in an F150 again until Ford corrected the horrible lack of strength in the frame. Ford did for the current generation. I'd seriously ( seriously ) be looking to dump my Ranger from that era.
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jul 13, 2009 7:34 pm) You go ahead and tell the family of the 86 year old man that got killed in front of our shop in his fairly new Saturn. He was hit broadside and airbags all deployed. I'll take the Packard thank you very much. You have both been brain washed to the max. Cheap thin sheet metal crumple zones are ok if you get in a wreck with the same size vehicle. Listen to the IIHS not the NHTSA. They are a clueless government agency, manned by over paid civil servants waiting for a fat retirement check. PS Read what happens when a Honda Fit hits an Accord. it is all physics. People want to risk their lives in an econobox, more power to them. http://www.iihs.org/externaldata/srdata/docs/sr4404.pdf
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Replying to: maryh3 (Jul 13, 2009 1:51 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 13, 2009 7:45 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jul 14, 2009 3:20 am) To your post, who goes first? When I drive around here in San Diego it is at least 50% big SUVs and PU trucks. Even the lowly Accord is pushing toward Crown Vic size. With not much better mileage I might add. The new Accord is only rated 22 MPG combined. Not many will have clunker cars that can qualify to buy. I don't like being down low looking up at the vehicles bling bling wheels next to me. I feel vulnerable in our Lexus LS400. Trading down to a Yaris or a Fit is marginal on mileage and a big step backward on safety. |
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Replying to: 100chuck (Jul 13, 2009 8:55 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Jul 13, 2009 1:36 pm) Man this guy really is a moron or this whole article is a badly written attempt at The Onion style sarcasm. |
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 13, 2009 7:16 pm) People are griping because they need to overhaul their transmission after 100,000 miles! In the "old days" people would have been bragging that they made it that long! Remember valve jobs at 50,000 miles? Ring Jobs at 70,000 miles? Remember when every car leaked oil after a few years and nobody cared?
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