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Mercedes Benz GLK-Class Lease Questions

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Re: [gvitalik1] by csvensson
Jan 24, 2009 (7:14 am)
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Replying to: gvitalik1 (Jan 19, 2009 4:55 pm)

GLK350W4 - dealer in CT
$46,000
- P01
- Multimedia pack.
- Appearance
- 20"
- Heated front
 
36 months lease
 
$2,470 1st payment
 
$682/month
 
Any extra $1,000 will decrease monthly payment by $32
 
Never leased before, how to argue w the dealer to get a better offer?
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Re: [csvensson] by gavin2000
Jan 25, 2009 (5:58 am)
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Replying to: csvensson (Jan 24, 2009 7:14 am)

get the invoice price from Edmunds (new car area, make sure you put the exact right options on and match the MSRP) then make them work back up a price from invoice. (1000 over? 1500 over?)
 
Promo lease from Mercedes is 39 months, not 36 -- that will decrease your payment right there.
 
How many miles per year do you need?
 
Residuals are: .56 for 7500 miles/yr .54 for 10,000 .53 for 12,0000
                    .51 for 15000
 
Base rate money factor from mercedes financial is . 00197 (pretty sure on this)
 
so then it's just a math problem
 
MSRP x residual = depreciated value
CAP COST (negotiated price including any up front $$) minus depreciated value equals equals depreciation. Divide that number by 39 -- monthly depreciation
 
CAP cost PLUS depreciated value TIMES money factor = monthly interest
 
add the monthly depreciation number ( should be up down of 475-500) and the monthly interest (should be around $140 ) to get your monthly payment.
 
This is better explained (sorry) on some of the leasing sites (leasecompare.com)
 or
check out the lease forum at MBworld.org/forums
 
good luck!
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March lease programs by archmod
Mar 02, 2009 (10:58 pm)
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I am hoping someone can let me know what the residual and money factor currently is for a 39 month lease with 15K miles per year.
Thanks
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Re: [csvensson] Leasing is tough, almost always by nickr1
Mar 06, 2009 (10:29 pm)
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Replying to: csvensson (Jan 24, 2009 7:14 am)

That's about what a lease is on a 42,000 to 46,000 suv; 2,470 down and $682 per month and that's way to high for an entry level suv like this. The LR2 Land Rover for example is 42,000 loaded but even when they discount the car to 38,000 the lease is still 36 months with 3,300 down and 655 per month. Gee, how can a 38,000 car and a 46,000 car have about the same lease price? Simple, the dealer offers what the dealer offers, you can take it or walk away; the math is there to confuse you, it's not there to give you a good deal, believe me.
 
The residual and money factor makes no difference, though math experts will tell you differently, neither does the down payment, which you should try to get as low as possible, though often that just gets you paying a higher monthly; look, a low down payment only helps you if the monthly is low too, get it? He can offer you the car for 46,000 or 40,000 but he could make the lease the same price either way; discounts on delivered price make no difference. What you pay in total over 3 years is ALL that matters. yeah, there are some charges up front you have to pay but never give them cash up front, that works for them, never you.
 
When the lease deal is good (meaning low down payment and low monthly payment) it's because there is a dealer incentive attached, meaning the dealer is giving up his profit to move cars. They only do this when they are super desperate and dealers like Mercedes and Land Rover and BMW are never desperate. Not yet, anyway, but wait a year, they might be.
 
The way you have to look at it is: what is the lowest price you can get for the car with options you want. Then, what is the combined down payment and 36 months of payments, just add them together and that's what you pay for having use of the car for 3 years. There is no reason to factor in a bunch of complicated math unless you plan on buying the car at lease end which hardly anyone does because it's always a terrible deal, unfortunately, so is leasing at all, it's just that simple. Dealers will screw around with these numbers to confuse you but it's not confusing, how much money are you giving them in total for 3 years, that's all that matters.
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GLK vs Audi Q5 by crestonave
Mar 08, 2009 (8:16 am)
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Has anyone compared the two in person? Is it possible that Audi's lower advertised lease price for the Q5 will force MB to get a little more aggressive with their leasing on the GLK?
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Re: GLK vs Audi Q5 [crestonave] by sharmahw
Mar 09, 2009 (1:45 pm)
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Replying to: crestonave (Mar 08, 2009 8:16 am)

Hi I was quoted 2010 GLK with P1 and Parktronic only in NJ. 0 cap cost plus inceptions fee (about $2100), sales tax included, 39 months, 7500/yr miles, $530/month. Is it reasonable or there is room for negotiation? Thanks. Need to get the car this week!
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GLK Lease Offer by trent_08
Mar 10, 2009 (12:59 pm)
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Replying to: sharmahw (Mar 09, 2009 1:45 pm)

Hey, wanted to share and get feedback. Just received the following email quote in southern NJ.
 
2010 GLK 4matic
Metallic Steel Gray
Black MB-Tex
Aluminum Trim
P1
Multimedia
Sport Appearance Package - 20" Wheels
Heated Seats
MSRP $45,705
SALE PRICE $41,666
LEASE TERMS
39 Months
12k miles/yr
$2500 Due at signing (1st month, tax, fee, etc..)
$598 Monthly Payment
 
I think this is a decent offer, any thoughts/suggestions?
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Re: GLK Lease Offer [trent_08] by crestonave
Mar 11, 2009 (1:23 am)
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Replying to: trent_08 (Mar 10, 2009 12:59 pm)

I'm no expert. but that offer looks pretty good compared with some of the other numbers I've seen tossed about. This is a zero down payment lease? Also could you share the money factor and the residual? Thanks, and good luck with the car if you decide to go ahead with the deal!
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Re: GLK Lease Offer [crestonave] by trent_08
Mar 11, 2009 (5:41 am)
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Replying to: crestonave (Mar 11, 2009 1:23 am)

Not sure on the money factor or residual number as I didn't see the breakout of the lease yet. Here is what I was quoted over email:
 
1st Month Payment 598.31
Acquisition Fee 795.00
Fees & Insurance 427.50
Upfront Taxes 96.44
Cap Reduction (Cash) 582.75
 
Total Out of Pocket 2,500.00
 
Payment Information
Final Payment 598.31
 
So it looks like $582 would be the down payment.
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Re: GLK Lease Offer [trent_08] by crestonave
Mar 12, 2009 (1:28 am)
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Replying to: trent_08 (Mar 11, 2009 5:41 am)

Thanks for sharing that information with me. There are only 96.44 in taxes included in your 2500 out of pocket. Does this mean that the 598.31 monthly payment includes the remainder of the sales taxes?

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