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#96 of 2054 Re: 2010 LaCrosse CXL FWD Prices and feedback please!! [poodog13]
by dodgeman07
Aug 21, 2009 (12:01 pm)
Let's wind the clock back 30 years to 1979.
Say a new car had a Monroney sticker price of $9,000 which was about average then for a full-size sedan. The invoice price at that time was typically 11-12% below sticker on full-size cars or about $8,000. That $1,000 difference was ALL the dealer had to make a profit with. You couldn't buy the car for "invoice" then because that left nothing for commissions, overheads, profit, etc.
Fast forward to 2009. We'll use thors example from above. The 2010 Buick LaCrosse quoted has a Monroney sticker price of $35,380. The invoice price is $33,448! That's only 5.5% below the sticker price! Do you think a measly $1,900 is all the dealer has to work a profit from today? Of course not.
There are manufacturer to dealer incentives and dealer hold-backs on virtually every new car sold today. A dealer can sell a car for under invoice today and still make a profit! It has totally polluted what "invoice" price is supposed to mean.
On the new Buick cited I'd estimate close to $4,000 is available for the dealer to bargain with. $3,500 minimum. True dealer cost on that $35,380 Buick is $32,000 max but "invoice" is $33,448!
My figures are estimates and I'm generalizing but you should get the idea. Don't let an "invoice sale" con you into thinking you're buying a vehicle for dealer cost.
#97 of 2054 Re: 2010 LaCrosse CXL FWD Prices and feedback please!! [thors]
by alexup
Aug 21, 2009 (2:47 pm)
Thors,
This should help you with pricing:
http://truecar.com/Buick/LaCrosse/2010/best-price-report-F3D1C84B.html?colorInfo- =Carbon%20Black%20Metallic,Cocoa/Light%20Cashmere,33940,3120,2010%20Buick,LaCros- se,4dr%20Sedan%20CXL,2010_Buick_LaCrosse_Carbon_Black_Metallic.jpg&optionInfo=62- 22135,5991783,5991786,5977096&trimId=309825&modelId=19021&zipcode=08060
#98 of 2054 Re: 2010 LaCrosse CXL FWD Prices and feedback please!! [alexup]
by thors
Aug 21, 2009 (7:40 pm)
Thanks everyone for all the advice and help - love that site! Sheds some light on the whole car buying experience!
Since they're so new, I'm having trouble finding the configuration I want....I've got 5 dealers I've contacted and they are slowly getting back to me.....I don't want the gray interior which is all there seems to be out there right now!!
Also - I'm being told 2 stories on the Drivers Confidence Package...1 is that it is lumped into the comfort and conv. pkg...2 is that it is standard on all CXL's.....
I have to tell you though that I've been looking at several vehicles and it seems I know more than the salesmen!!!! So.......something doesn't sound right here about that package...anyone know what the story is on it? That is an option we are definite about.......
Really like this car, but don't want to special order.....
Thanks!!
#99 of 2054 Re: 2010 LaCrosse CXL FWD Prices and feedback please!! [thors]
by dodgeman07
Aug 21, 2009 (11:01 pm)
"Also - I'm being told 2 stories on the Drivers Confidence Package...1 is that it is lumped into the comfort and conv. pkg...2 is that it is standard on all CXL's....."
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Well story #1 definitely sounds wrong. The Comfort & Conv. Pkg is only $550 and already includes several nice options; so there's no way you'd get Xenon HID articulating lamps, a Head-Up Display and a Blind Spot Warning system tossed in at that price.
Story #2 is wrong also because buick.com lists the HID lamps and Head-Up display as options for all the CXL & CXS models. There is no mention of the Blind Spot Warning system on the Buick website that I can see.
It's interesting because the link provided by alexup for truecar.com doesn't show the Driver Confidence Package as available either. My guess is there is some issue with the Blind Spot Warning system making it unavailable at this time. You can still get the HID lamps & HUD though.
#100 of 2054 Re: 2010 LaCrosse CXL FWD Prices and feedback please!! [dodgeman07]
by thors
Aug 22, 2009 (4:34 am)
dodgeman07.....
Exactly!!! There is NO way it's lumped into that %550 pkg!!! I went to their website last night as well and saw the same thing and noticed that on truecar too, so think you may be correct in there's some kind of issue with the blind spot warning....which would be a nice thing......so will look at those 2 options as separate.....
Opinion on prices offered by dealer?
The biggest problem seems to be what I want in the car and the interior color! Are my options that specific that I should need to order one?? I noticed quite a few of the ones have the upgraded sounds system...that seems to be a common option...
Thanks!!!!
#101 of 2054 CXS
by jlc
Aug 22, 2009 (12:06 pm)
Hey everyone, I am very interested in 2010 Buick. Can anyone tell me if the car has cabin air filtration? Such as BMW, Infiniti etc. I have bad allergies and this would be a big plus. I also would like to buy USA.
thanks
JLC
#102 of 2054 CXS
by jlc
Aug 22, 2009 (2:37 pm)
Just recieved Buick brochure in the mail, and yes it has cabin air filtration.
Thanks
#103 of 2054 Availability
by thors
Aug 25, 2009 (1:43 pm)
Anyone finding they are coming in very slowly?? Trying to find a beige interior is proving difficult where I am (south Fla)...all the gray - which is nice, but not what I want. Also - now hearing there is a problem with the heads up display...something to do with the treatment on the windows, so not sure how soon that will be out and that is something we would like....as well as the blind spot feature, but one salesman told me that they pulled that feature from the Enclave as it got a lot of customer complaints, so they may be pulling that all together here too......
#104 of 2054 Great looking design but a bit porky
by grinnin
Aug 27, 2009 (8:35 am)
Glad to see GM stepping up their design both exterior and interior. LaCrosse is a nice looking car and Buick has done great with the quality numbers. But.. 4000+ lbs.?? This excess weight is killing the gas mileage as well as the vehicles quickness. Nissan Maxima and Toyota Avalon have more powerful V-6s, much better pickup, 10 to 15% better fuel economy, and each weigh 400-500# less. Lose 500# and your EPA goes up 2 mpg, your braking distances go down 10 ft., and your 0-60 goes down by 1.0 sec. As tough as the current sales market is, a manufacturer needs to get everything right without exceptions to make any money right now. I hope the LaCrosse does well.
#105 of 2054 the trunk
by gened1
Aug 28, 2009 (2:38 pm)
Currently driving an 06 Impala 6 seater and an 08 Solara SLE convertible. The Impala has almost as much trunk room as my 05 500 had. The convertible only about 13 cubic feet. The trunk on the 2010 LaCrosse is only 12cf? Whats with that. A family of five will have to pack light and strollers will have to be the umbrella kind.
I'm in the market but the Taurus might have to be considered. I figure if I have to settle for a 5 seater I will not be getting a crossover. The Kia Rondo 7 seater and the mazda5 have the right direction though. The auto manufacturers should fill this nitche with a combination of the two vehicles -either a more powerful Mazda 5 or a better looking Rondo with the 6cylinder.Either way I'll be waiting to see how things shake out and then maybe jump in the spring.