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poodog by marsha7
Aug 13, 2009 (4:53 pm)
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I will agree with you that their sales should have sustained them...but their engineering and design has been on the downslide for decades, except for a few models...and quality has suffered severely, which I find difficult to place the blame for that on legacy costs, but rather on design of vehicle and the #%&* that assemble them...
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Re: poodog [marsha7] by dodgeman07
Aug 13, 2009 (6:16 pm)
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Replying to: marsha7 (Aug 13, 2009 4:53 pm)

...and quality has suffered severely...
 
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Buick quality has been among the best in the industry for several years now. My '06 Lucerne has been perfect in every respect. I have had it for 2 1/2 years and have put 30,000 miles on it.
 
Buick has 3 more new models coming on line in the next 18 months. They will do well.
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dodgemman by marsha7
Aug 14, 2009 (7:19 am)
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I hope you are correct...
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2010 LaCrosse CXL FWD Prices and feedback please!! by thors
Aug 20, 2009 (8:55 am)
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I am seriously looking at this vehicle and would like some input on prices out there....I have always been a foreign car person but this is making me take a second look at American cars and Buick at that.
 
I am looking at the CXL FWD with
PCI - driver conf. pkg
PCK - luxury pkg
C3U - power sunroof
Q52 - 18" chrome wheels
PCM - comfort & conv.
 
What price should I be firm on?? TMV says $35,380 - which is MSRP, but invoice is $33,448........
 
Thanks.
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Re: 2010 LaCrosse CXL FWD Prices and feedback please!! [thors] by dodgeman07
Aug 20, 2009 (8:28 pm)
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Replying to: thors (Aug 20, 2009 8:55 am)

You could Internet cross-shop a few dealers and see what you come up with.
 
If we're not talking trade-in and you bring your cash/financing to the table, I'd knock $1,500 off the MSRP and be firm.
 
The "Invoice" listed is only 5.5% below MSRP. Invoice price is a joke these days really. The meaning of it is gone with the wind and forget Edmunds TMV on a model that just went on sale. There's not much for them to go by yet.
 
$33,900 should buy the car you've described.
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Re: 2010 LaCrosse CXL FWD Prices and feedback please!! [dodgeman07] by poodog13
Aug 21, 2009 (7:40 am)
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Replying to: dodgeman07 (Aug 20, 2009 8:28 pm)

Invoice price is a joke these days really. The meaning of it is gone with the wind
 
What do you mean by this?
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Re: 2010 LaCrosse CXL FWD Prices and feedback please!! [poodog13] by dodgeman07
Aug 21, 2009 (11:01 am)
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Replying to: poodog13 (Aug 21, 2009 7:40 am)

Let's wind the clock back 30 years to 1979.
 
Say a new car had a Monroney sticker price of $9,000 which was about average then for a full-size sedan. The invoice price at that time was typically 11-12% below sticker on full-size cars or about $8,000. That $1,000 difference was ALL the dealer had to make a profit with. You couldn't buy the car for "invoice" then because that left nothing for commissions, overheads, profit, etc.
 
Fast forward to 2009. We'll use thors example from above. The 2010 Buick LaCrosse quoted has a Monroney sticker price of $35,380. The invoice price is $33,448! That's only 5.5% below the sticker price! Do you think a measly $1,900 is all the dealer has to work a profit from today? Of course not.
 
There are manufacturer to dealer incentives and dealer hold-backs on virtually every new car sold today. A dealer can sell a car for under invoice today and still make a profit! It has totally polluted what "invoice" price is supposed to mean.
 
On the new Buick cited I'd estimate close to $4,000 is available for the dealer to bargain with. $3,500 minimum. True dealer cost on that $35,380 Buick is $32,000 max but "invoice" is $33,448!
 
My figures are estimates and I'm generalizing but you should get the idea. Don't let an "invoice sale" con you into thinking you're buying a vehicle for dealer cost.
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Re: 2010 LaCrosse CXL FWD Prices and feedback please!! [thors] by alexup
Aug 21, 2009 (1:47 pm)
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Replying to: thors (Aug 20, 2009 8:55 am)

Thors,
 
This should help you with pricing:
 
http://truecar.com/Buick/LaCrosse/2010/best-price-report-F3D1C84B.html?colorInfo- =Carbon%20Black%20Metallic,Cocoa/Light%20Cashmere,33940,3120,2010%20Buick,LaCros- se,4dr%20Sedan%20CXL,2010_Buick_LaCrosse_Carbon_Black_Metallic.jpg&optionInfo=62- 22135,5991783,5991786,5977096&trimId=309825&modelId=19021&zipcode=08060
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Re: 2010 LaCrosse CXL FWD Prices and feedback please!! [alexup] by thors
Aug 21, 2009 (6:40 pm)
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Replying to: alexup (Aug 21, 2009 1:47 pm)

Thanks everyone for all the advice and help - love that site! Sheds some light on the whole car buying experience!
 
Since they're so new, I'm having trouble finding the configuration I want....I've got 5 dealers I've contacted and they are slowly getting back to me.....I don't want the gray interior which is all there seems to be out there right now!!
Also - I'm being told 2 stories on the Drivers Confidence Package...1 is that it is lumped into the comfort and conv. pkg...2 is that it is standard on all CXL's.....
I have to tell you though that I've been looking at several vehicles and it seems I know more than the salesmen!!!! So.......something doesn't sound right here about that package...anyone know what the story is on it? That is an option we are definite about.......
 
Really like this car, but don't want to special order.....
 
 
 
Thanks!!

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