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#1583 of 2056 Re: Buick Lacrosse Sales Stats- 2010 vs 2011 [crankeee]
Apr 16, 2011 (2:41 am)
with the ole "option pack" What pack is that?
At current gas prices I'm sure many are looking more closely at mileage figures.
Younger people are more interested in the Regal. Not to say the Lacrosse is not appealing to a wider market. It is also likely taking from Lucernne sales since it has already passed its last year and as GM has done with other vehicles reaching end of production, they remove some options from the available list.
I saw the new Lacrosse commercial last night, laughable from my experience.
In today's economy, GM best bet at boosting Lacrosse sales is getting buyers from slightly higher priced vehicles or giving the buyer something he can't get in other vehicles. For starters they'd need to refine the quality and improve some areas and definitely not blow off customers with "that's the way it is designed." Bad design? Fix it.
#1584 of 2056 Re: Buick Lacrosse Sales Stats- 2010 vs 2011 [e_net_rider]
Apr 16, 2011 (5:05 am)
Option pak refers to loading certain models with option packages rather than individually priced options as in the past. For only $3800 as an example you can get say Bluetooth but you have to take sunroof, memory seats and Navigation in the pak. Another approach is to only offer certain options on certain trim levels or models. If you want upscale leather you have to buy the primo upscale model with heated and cooled seats plus the $4800 price difference with whatever options the manufacturer choses to pak onto the car. Many variations to the theme but the result is you pay more to get what you want and also get some or many options you do not want or need. Hard to work around and get the car you want at the price you want to pay. Great fun though.
#1585 of 2056 Re: Buick Lacrosse Sales Stats- 2010 vs 2011 [crankeee]
Apr 17, 2011 (1:11 am)
Now I'm in sync. If you remember I was doing my shopping when many of those changes took place. One in particular, H-arm dropped from CXL & CXS, brought back shortly as an option on CXS but not on CXL, at least while I was buying. What was included then became a pricey option package because the H-arm then included full time active suspension damping with sport mode and GY 19" tires & wheels. I have to wonder if they had a contract with GY to sell x number of tires and no one was buying the 19" wheel/tire combo. Owners experience seems to show that GY & maybe 19" wheels would be a bad choice.
And if you are buying off the lot, then they do have them cobbled together as you suggest. That is why I did a custom order. Everyone I looked and searched out had a sunroof if it came close to having other wanted options.
Makers claim that building fully custom costs more than building the way they do. Maybe that should be read, "custom builds are not as profitable."
I want to know why they decided to make the spoiler standard on CX model.
Does GM have a surplus of them?
Is it a marketing trick?
Is it actually functional in some way beyond a cosmetic thing? That is, does it reduce drag or provide better stability at highway speeds?
I want to know! Guess I'm sort of a technical guy.
#1586 of 2056 Re: time after time [gmcustsvc]
Apr 18, 2011 (4:37 pm)
Christina, took my CSX into the dealer today and they reprogrammed the item that controls the clock, this resolved the problem.
#1587 of 2056 Re: time after time [dwight9]
Apr 19, 2011 (5:39 am)
Wow! They can reprogram something like how the clock functions, but they can't or won't reprogram some other issues.
#1588 of 2056 Re: Buick-GMC Sales Stats- 2010 vs 2011 [crankeee]
Apr 23, 2011 (2:36 am)
The unfortunate shakeup at Toyota and Honda will help GM with sales in the short term until gas hits $4-$5/gallon and then the bottom will fall out again for the big (60% of sales) truck/SUV sellers like Ford, GM and Chrysler (pre Fiat).
Driving by a Buick-GMC dealership I couldn't help but notice acres and acres of Buick-GMC SUV and trucks on the lot. When we thought GM was out of the woods and back on its feet again up comes another gas crisis. Again, it seems as though GM was blindsided not antcipating the geo-politics of the Middle East which is having a devastating impact on sales. At this rate it won't be long before the Big 3 will be back in Washington looking for yet another bailot.
These guys just will not learn. If they wish to produce big Trucks and SUVs, they should develop more fuel efficient alternatives. For example, a genuine 35-mpg hybrid Truck/SUV, diesel-turbo, all electric or nitrogen propelled vehicle. I don't know if they are working behind the scenes but the auto industry should be working more closely with companies such as Boston POwer Technology to speed up development on more powerful batteries for trucks and other large vehicles.
#1589 of 2056 Re: Buick-GMC Sales Stats- 2010 vs 2011 [bwia]
Apr 23, 2011 (5:37 am)
It is not just the mfrs that do not learn. The American public went right back to buying huge inefficient vehicles as soon as the last artificial gas crisis was past. The dealers will have to offer big discounts to move the iron and the public will buy them on sale. Same cycle over and over. No National energy policy other than providing the oil companies with their 6% profit margin on ever higher imported oil (6% of $10/bbl or 6% of $115/bbl oil - which would you pick for your bonus calculation?) vs. lower price of domestic oil.
I recommend taxing large gas guzzlers for real instead of giving business deductions for mega priced SUV's & trucks to further incent irresponsible fuel usage just because you can afford it. Sad to say the Europeans are way ahead of us on that score.
As stated before, at least we have a choice in what vehicle we buy- just not the price of fuel that is set by the greed and idiocy of our fellow citizens.
Sorry for the rant. Love this new Lacrosse- great performance & MPG.
#1590 of 2056 Re: Buick-GMC Sales Stats- 2010 vs 2011 [crankeee]
Apr 23, 2011 (6:31 am)
We do pay more taxes on gas guzzlers in form of the tax on gasoline and on any taxable repairs.
The American people will buy what they want and at the price they can afford. The Auto companies have to build to the public demands. Of course the public is fickle and will change their minds depending on the days news. Unfortunately the Auto companies cannot change production that quickly so they will always lag behind.
Many talk about having an all electric vehicles. This is very impractical as the distance travelled is such that you must always have another car to use if the trip is over 50 to 100 miles. In big cities this is not unusual for people to drive this distance on one trip. Therefore a combination electric/gas powered is the only answer (as per the Volt) to not having a second car for longer trips. All electric just will not work as a single car for most of us.
Battery research has been going on for years without a whole lot of change and it will probably continue to go on with minor changes for the next 5 to 10 years. I simply cannot stop every 60 to 100 miles to recharge for a few hours.
I have great hope for cars like the Volt but the cost of the combination will be high (but less than the cost of two cars). To me it is the only answer to having an efficient combination to have only one car. Having two cars (one all electric and the other gas fueled) to handle my requirements make no sense. Maybe 70 % of my trips would be within the restrictions of an all electric auto BUT I would still need a second car that would handle the other 30% longer trips.
The other problem is the electric grid - it has trouble now handling our electric demands. Thin what the problems would be to have millions of cars plugged in day and night charging their batteries. Since it is almost impossible to build new electric generating plants - some object to whatever fuels them - I don't see a solution to this problem for years to come.
Solutions are not near as easy as some people would lead one to believe. We like our big cars and trucks and I see no way this will change to any great amount in the foreseeable future. Just give me a car like the Lacrosse with a better mileage (however it is obtained) and I certainly will be happy. But I do not want to lose any of the creature comforts it gives me now.
#1591 of 2056 Re: Buick-GMC Sales Stats- 2010 vs 2011 [cooleydd]
Apr 23, 2011 (10:34 am)
I agree with your comments. The point I was trying to make is exactly what you say. The American public will continue to buy whatever they can afford and want - that's why it is America. The resulting problem is that since we do that and some Americans chose to buy say a Hummer for whatever reason and it gets 8 MPG, we, as a nation, use more fuel than if the person bought a Lacrosse that averages 24 or so (3X better MPG). I think that person s/b taxed or pay more for his/her gas due to his choice that has an impact on price and demand for the fuel used by the whole nation. True they pay for more fuel, but that does not offset the higher price that has to be paid by all due to the absence of an effective energy policy. guess we will keep going to war to feed our demand for more, not less oil.
gotta love these Lacrosse and other choices that offer safety, room, and MPG of 20 in town and close to 30 MPG at 65 on the highway.
Thank you Bob Lutz (Semper Fi!).
#1592 of 2056 Re: Buick-GMC Sales Stats- 2010 vs 2011 [cooleydd]
Apr 23, 2011 (1:55 pm)
cooleydd, ...I agree with you on the buying habits of Americans but not on the range limitations of future Battery Electric Vehicles (BEVs). Take for example, an American company, in cooperation with the Japanese government and a Japanese taxi company who designed a “refueling” station for electric cars. The station does not recharge the depleted batteries but instead replace them with a fresh car battery in one minute and 59 seconds.
Think about that for a moment, in two minute the old battery can be swapped for a fresh one; in less time than a gasoline fill up. So, any thought of range anxiety or the need to have a second car is eliminated. And guess what? in the process will create millions of new jobs to put this new infrastructure in place. I saw a video on this but can’t quite remember where, but meanwhile here is a link with some more details http://www.itechdiary.com/battery-replacement-stations-for-electric-powered-taxi- - - -in-tokyo.html
P.S: Here is the video link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lp_6VyIeSY