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#70 of 1886 Re: Jeep Wrangler: Problems and Solutions [njbamadogz]
by joe500
Feb 18, 2006 (4:02 pm)
I have a 2002 Sahara, bought it 3 months ago, has less than 35k miles on it. Leaks unbelievably. I have icecycles hangings from the ceiling, and when I put the heat on, it rains on me. The rugs are soaked, seats are damp. Afterwards it smells like a swamp inside, almost to the point where its undriveable. Took it in once to the dealership, they replaced the gaskets around the doors and windshield - failed miserably. Now they say there may be a crease along the bottom of the floorboards that may be leaking, so thats what they are looking at next. Anyone hear of this "crease" before?
#71 of 1886 Re: Jeep Wrangler: Problems and Solutions [mac24]
by goducks1
Feb 19, 2006 (8:35 am)
Just checked this forum out. Mac, they should be paying you for this
#72 of 1886 Re: Jeep Wrangler: Problems and Solutions [goducks1]
by mac24
Feb 19, 2006 (3:00 pm)
Mac, they should be paying you for this.
Every time I tell them that, they make me work even longer hours!
#73 of 1886 Re: Jeep Wrangler: Problems and Solutions [joe500]
by mac24
Feb 19, 2006 (3:18 pm)
I've not heard of a Wrangler leaking as badly as that, though there have been reports of a few '05 models with badly fitting doors which leak badly.
Even if it is leaking through the floor in some way, it's hard to imagine that it would allow water in to the extent that you're describing. If they claim a leaking 'crease' to be the cause, make sure to have them show it to you in detail.
P.S. Your description of 'icecycles' hanging from the ceiling conjures up an interesting picture!
#74 of 1886 Re: Running rough [mac24]
by dgarner
Feb 21, 2006 (10:42 am)
Thank's for the reply. The Jeep just started running rough all of a sudden. Runs ok while cold but when it warms up it is rough. It's been back in the shop for a week since this last message. They have replace sparks and plugs, egr vaulve, coil, computer, and nothing has worked. Now they think carbin has builded up and it needs a head job. I don't think they know but maybe it will work. Let me hear from you thanking you in advance. Darlene
#75 of 1886 Re: Running rough [dgarner]
by mac24
Feb 21, 2006 (12:26 pm)
It sounds like they're just throwing parts at it in the hope that something will fix it. I'd suggest you take it to a shop that's a little more professional, and that understands how to use logic (and a scanner) to diagnose what should be a simple problem.
If it runs ok when cold but badly when warmed up, that would suggest that it has a fuel/air mixture that's too rich. The most common issue is a faulty OČ sensor, though not the only cause by any means. You need to have the on-board computer read for any fault codes (Autozone will do it free), which will give an accurate indication of where the fault lies.
Your symptoms sound nothing like carbon buildup on the valves. However, that diagnosis and the work previously done does indicate a lot about the incompetence of the shop involved. I trust that this isn't a Jeep dealership you're using? (If it is.....SHAME ON THEM!!!).
#76 of 1886 running rough for just a few seconds
by jakestertsu19
Feb 24, 2006 (6:20 pm)
i just bought a 98 wrangler on the 22nd. i'm very happy with it but just today it started to run rough for about 5 seconds or so. by rough i mean that the engine starts to cut out a little and the jeep starts to jerk a little bit. after that it runs fine and it only happens after i just start it and start driving down the road. i have a feeling it may be a fuel filter or possibly an O2 sensor. does anyone have any suggestions on what it may be? any help is most appreciated
#77 of 1886 Re: running rough for just a few seconds [jakestertsu19]
by extremebigdog
Feb 24, 2006 (7:17 pm)
I had that same problem on a 2000 Wrangler. I didn't really want to do any 'real' repairs so I tried some fuel cleaner. I think it was a fuel injector cleaner or something. Anyways, it did the trick and I didn't have the problem again. Actually I did it twice, once with a cheap brand ($5) and once with a slick50 cleaner ($15). So I don't really know which one did the trick.
#78 of 1886 Re: running rough for just a few seconds [extremebigdog]
by jakestertsu19
Feb 24, 2006 (7:25 pm)
i just put a bottle of gumout in there tongiht but i think i'll try putting in another, more expensive bottle, on my next fill up. thanks man i appreciate the suggestion.
#79 of 1886 Re: Jeep Wrangler: Problems and Solutions [mac24]
by joe500
Feb 27, 2006 (8:07 am)
Thanks - The service department tells me the icecycles are created by the moisture (actually soaked rugs) from the bottom of the jeep being heated, and the condensation rising to the roof. It then re-freezes and creates the stalactites. Then when I put the heat on, they melt, causing it to "rain" and soaking the floor again. My jeep has its own weather pattern. Science at it's best.