Are you happy you didn't sell your SUV?

122 messages, Last post on Apr 15, 2009 at 5:57 AM

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#80 of 122 Re: Hybrid Taxis unsafe [gagrice] by larsb Jan 16, 2009 (6:24 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Jan 15, 2009 5:23 pm) Ford could solve that problem by making a hybrid Crown Vic. Now that they have the FEH and the FFH, the technology is "in house."
#81 of 122 Re: Shouldn't You Ask... (larsb) by hpmctorque Jan 16, 2009 (7:12 am)
"Ford could solve that problem by making a hybrid Crown Vic." Maybe hybrid or diesel Crown Vics, or, even better, diesel hybrib Crown Vics, would be the way to go for big city cabs. And a Lincoln Town car counterpart might make a good limo. Replies to this message: gagrice (Jan 16, 2009 8:43 am)
#82 of 122 Re: Shouldn't You Ask... [larsb] by gagrice Jan 16, 2009 (8:40 am)
Replying to: larsb (Jan 16, 2009 6:23 am) If you want a small car with a high clearance, buy a Subaru PZEV Outback. I actually like the looks of that vehicle. However it only gets 17 MPG in the city. To give up the comfort and room of the Sequoia for 2 MPG makes very little sense. When they bring in the diesel Outback I will take another look if I have not bought my final vehicle by then. I just do not like the Escape and you already know they are horribly over priced. I don't like getting screwed buying a vehicle. Replies to this message: nippononly (Jan 16, 2009 8:43 am) gagrice (Jan 16, 2009 9:43 am) steve_ (Jan 16, 2009 10:05 am)
#83 of 122 Re: Shouldn't You Ask... (larsb) [hpmctorque] by gagrice Jan 16, 2009 (8:43 am)
Replying to: hpmctorque (Jan 16, 2009 7:12 am) So far no one has built a large vehicle with hybrid that is worth looking at. I don't see 3-4 MPG improvement worth $10k or more. That is strictly for eco weinies wanting people to believe they are environmentally astute.
#84 of 122 Re: Shouldn't You Ask... [gagrice] by nippononly Jan 16, 2009 (8:43 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Jan 16, 2009 8:40 am) However it only gets 17 MPG in the city Actually, it's 20. 18 for the turbo. http://www.subaru.com/ Replies to this message: gagrice (Jan 16, 2009 9:43 am) steve_ (Jan 16, 2009 10:05 am)
#85 of 122 Re: Shouldn't You Ask... [nippononly] by gagrice Jan 16, 2009 (9:43 am)
Replying to: nippononly (Jan 16, 2009 8:43 am) My only interest was in the Outback wagon with the 6 cylinder. It requires Premium which is another black mark against it. Cannot imagine a vehicle that big and heavy with a screaming 4 cylinder. Not my idea of a pleasant cruise down the highway listening to Rachmaninov. 2009 Outback has a worse pollution score than my 07 Sequoia. I see nothing convincing me to give up my SUV. That outback getting 40 MPG out on the highway is possible. The race is on and I am getting more in the mood to buy a diesel SUV. Now just waiting till Spring when VW brings a diesel SUV to our shores. Replies to this message: steve_ (Jan 16, 2009 10:05 am)
#86 of 122 Re: Shouldn't You Ask... [gagrice] by steve_ HOST Jan 16, 2009 (10:05 am)
Replying to: gagrice (Jan 16, 2009 9:43 am) Heh, I don't feel like I'm in all that big and heavy of a vehicle when I'm cruising around in my Outback with all the horse trailer towing rigs around here.
#87 of 122 Re: Shouldn't You Ask... [larsb] by boaz47 Jan 16, 2009 (1:53 pm)
Replying to: larsb (Jan 16, 2009 6:23 am) well I believe the Forester would be a better choice even though it is only 10 inches shorter than a 4runner. But you have obviously never tried to get the parts to lift a IFS vehicle. In all the years I have been exploring old ghost towns and silver mines in the So Cal high and low desert I can't ever remember seeing a outback on the roads we travel. some of them are class three jeep trails I admit but not all. Then again how easy would it be to get a low range in an outback? I don't think the recommend towing with one either. And the outback is about the same size as a Camry. No longer considered a small car. A camry looks like a Crown Vic next to my old Pontiac 4 banger. By the way an outback is only .2 inches shorter than a 4Runner.
#88 of 122 Re: Hybrid Taxis unsafe [gagrice] by oldfarmer50 Jan 16, 2009 (4:08 pm)
Replying to: gagrice (Jan 15, 2009 6:06 pm) "...It surprises me that NYC cab drivers can get up enough speed to roll one..." You've got to be kidding, right? Those guys are insane. Driving through Manhattan is like a drag-race combined with a demo-derby.
#89 of 122 I'm going to chime in if I may. by tankbeans Jan 16, 2009 (6:23 pm)
Hello all. First let me say that I don't care what anybody drives or how much they choose to spend on it. It isn't my business. I don't hate SUVs, I don't like SUVs. I don't need one so I don't care. One thing that bothers me is when I am at an intersection, no semiphore, and I'm trying to turn and a person in an SUV decides they can't see and they inch forward so I have to inch forward more to see around them, and they keep inching like they need the extra space to see oncoming traffic. Not meaning this as an attack to anyone just an observation. I don't like being behind them on the freeway because again I can't see, so I pass them and hope not to offend them. Let it be known that a couple of years ago, I've been driving less than 5, I was considering a Blazer to replace my Aerostar. My Aerostar was porcine and it was overly thirsty. 10 mpg only, I thought the Blazer might be good for 20mpg, but I never got it so I can't say. I instead got a 91 LeSabre with the 3.8 and loved it. Which leads me to something else. Somebody inquired about insurance for teens. I'm 20 and I've had my license since I turned 16. I had to pay me own insurance and that was $195 for the van per month with a crappy company. Then when I got my LeSabre it went to $105 per month with AmFam. After my LeSabre I got a 95 Accord, which needed full coverage as I was making payments and that was $145 per month. Now I have an 03, full coverage, and before my mom and I changed our policy cost $160 per month, full coverage $500 deductibles. If I'm confusing I apologize, but I wanted to chime in. Replies to this message: explorerx4 (Jan 16, 2009 6:32 pm) tankbeans (Jan 16, 2009 6:43 pm) boaz47 (Jan 16, 2009 8:06 pm) and 1 more... daddysangel (Jan 16, 2009 10:25 pm) tankbeans (Jan 17, 2009 10:29 am) steve_ (Jan 17, 2009 10:47 am) and 1 more...

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