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Re: Every SUV lover needs to read this story [dave8697]
by gagrice
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Jan 15, 2009 (9:43 pm)
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Replying to: dave8697 (Jan 15, 2009 7:41 pm)
He comes back from college with 3 month old bird crap on the front hood.
I think you are seeing a common trait with those that get a vehicle for nothing. My son was the same with the two different vehicles I bought him. Until someone works to buy their own they will not appreciate it. Even then many don't care. If they got easy money working in the family business etc. I like the idea of a small PU. I bought my son a 1994 Toyota PU and he pretty well trashed it in 5 years.
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Re: Shouldn't You Ask... [gagrice]
by larsb
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Jan 16, 2009 (6:23 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 15, 2009 4:45 pm)
If you want a small car with a high clearance, buy a Subaru PZEV Outback.
If you want a hybrid with a high clearance, buy an FEH.
And any car can be slightly lifted for usually less than $1500.
There are cars which solve those problems.
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Re: Hybrid Taxis unsafe [gagrice]
by larsb
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Jan 16, 2009 (6:24 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 15, 2009 5:23 pm)
Ford could solve that problem by making a hybrid Crown Vic.
Now that they have the FEH and the FFH, the technology is "in house."
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Re: Shouldn't You Ask... (larsb)
by hpmctorque
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Jan 16, 2009 (7:12 am)
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"Ford could solve that problem by making a hybrid Crown Vic."
Maybe hybrid or diesel Crown Vics, or, even better, diesel hybrib Crown Vics, would be the way to go for big city cabs. And a Lincoln Town car counterpart might make a good limo.
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Re: Shouldn't You Ask... [larsb]
by gagrice
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Jan 16, 2009 (8:40 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 16, 2009 6:23 am)
If you want a small car with a high clearance, buy a Subaru PZEV Outback.
I actually like the looks of that vehicle. However it only gets 17 MPG in the city. To give up the comfort and room of the Sequoia for 2 MPG makes very little sense. When they bring in the diesel Outback I will take another look if I have not bought my final vehicle by then. I just do not like the Escape and you already know they are horribly over priced. I don't like getting screwed buying a vehicle.
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Re: Shouldn't You Ask... (larsb) [hpmctorque]
by gagrice
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Jan 16, 2009 (8:43 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Jan 16, 2009 7:12 am)
So far no one has built a large vehicle with hybrid that is worth looking at. I don't see 3-4 MPG improvement worth $10k or more. That is strictly for eco weinies wanting people to believe they are environmentally astute.
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Re: Shouldn't You Ask... [gagrice]
by nippononly
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Jan 16, 2009 (8:43 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 16, 2009 8:40 am)
However it only gets 17 MPG in the city
Actually, it's 20. 18 for the turbo.
http://www.subaru.com/
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Re: Shouldn't You Ask... [nippononly]
by gagrice
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Jan 16, 2009 (9:43 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Jan 16, 2009 8:43 am)
My only interest was in the Outback wagon with the 6 cylinder. It requires Premium which is another black mark against it. Cannot imagine a vehicle that big and heavy with a screaming 4 cylinder. Not my idea of a pleasant cruise down the highway listening to Rachmaninov. 2009 Outback has a worse pollution score than my 07 Sequoia. I see nothing convincing me to give up my SUV. That outback getting 40 MPG out on the highway is possible. The race is on and I am getting more in the mood to buy a diesel SUV. Now just waiting till Spring when VW brings a diesel SUV to our shores.
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Re: Shouldn't You Ask... [gagrice]
by steve_ HOST
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Jan 16, 2009 (10:05 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jan 16, 2009 9:43 am)
Heh, I don't feel like I'm in all that big and heavy of a vehicle when I'm cruising around in my Outback with all the horse trailer towing rigs around here.
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Re: Shouldn't You Ask... [larsb]
by boaz47
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Jan 16, 2009 (1:53 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Jan 16, 2009 6:23 am)
well I believe the Forester would be a better choice even though it is only 10 inches shorter than a 4runner. But you have obviously never tried to get the parts to lift a IFS vehicle. In all the years I have been exploring old ghost towns and silver mines in the So Cal high and low desert I can't ever remember seeing a outback on the roads we travel. some of them are class three jeep trails I admit but not all. Then again how easy would it be to get a low range in an outback? I don't think the recommend towing with one either. And the outback is about the same size as a Camry. No longer considered a small car. A camry looks like a Crown Vic next to my old Pontiac 4 banger. By the way an outback is only .2 inches shorter than a 4Runner.
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